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Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing

Old 25th Dec 2012, 12:05
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Hempy,

Who is the tosser telling students that after the DTI module they'd be ready for Class G?


ATC students should be aware that working class G will bring you down a lot faster than working controlled airspace. The list of pitfalls is huge!
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Old 26th Dec 2012, 01:46
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Roger,
I'm just as guilty as anyone, although it's used as a 'motivator' and explained that it's only a technical status (which, in fact, it is...in the same way that completing the procedural or radar modules technically qualifies you for field training on that airspace as well).
The sim check qualifies as an endorsement, not a rating.
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Old 27th Dec 2012, 22:06
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Re-inforcing the point RS has made, rather than students/trainees being told they are 'ready' for Class G they do a case study on the Benalla tragedy. Lives lost, careers lost. Class G.

It baffles why anybody would be told that 'technically' they could hold a rating on any class of airspace after a module in the academy. I was never told it. You see the results of these methods in trainees in the field. some of them have the common sense to understand what they don't know. The ones that believe it? You can see the results of that on this forum, let alone in the field.
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Old 27th Dec 2012, 23:57
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Jack, feel free to pop on over to Bldg 156 and have a say. Brand new management structure, I'm sure they'll welcome any advice as to how to turn out better field trainees.
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Old 31st Dec 2012, 17:02
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Information on Sydney TCU and Perth TCU

I have applied for the experienced controller positions advertised for Sydney and Perth. I have been searching the internet for information on both Sydney TCU and Perth TCU and have found some information but not a great deal. Does anyone know of any good websites with this sort of information?
I am interested in the different control positions in both TCU's and also interested in knowing which airports they are responsible for.
I would guess that Syndey would be resposible for Kingsford Smith, Camden and Bankstown, among others, and Perth would be responsible for Perth and Jandakot.
Any help is much appreciated.

On a different note, Happy New Year to everyone and good luck to anyone in the process of applying for a controllers position.
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Old 1st Jan 2013, 22:20
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What is the normal time frame to hear back your assessment day outcome. Had my assessment over 3 weeks ago now in Canberra, and still haven't herd anything, is that normal?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 01:28
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I don't know what the normal timeframe is regarding assessment day results, but it is the New Year holidays at the moment-the person who lets you know whether or not you got in is probably away on a beach somewhere! Give them a few weeks still to have their holidays and get things ticking over again.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 02:54
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Well I take it they are back at work, as I got the phone call saying that I have a formal offer online. I'm on a train coming home from Chrissy so can't see it, but looks like they are back in the office
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 00:15
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Ruth,

I'm not 100% sure, but I think they pay your removals once you move to the field. They will only pay fuel or airfares for your move to Melbourne though. We used a backloading company for our moves to and from Melbourne. It takes longer than a regular removal company, but works out a hell of a lot cheaper.

Congratulations by the way.
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 02:55
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Think the way it works is that you get airfares or kilometres paid if you drive yourself to Melbourne about $0.70 per km depending on you car engine size. If you have nominated Brisbane as your home location then my understanding is that no assistance is provided to relocate to Brisbane if you finish the college. Best to check with P&C to confirm this.
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 08:14
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Ruth, you also need to consider the statistics - you have a roughly 50% chance of rating. Plus or minus. A recent course was considerably below that average.

Come on your own?
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 19:52
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mont's right. They'll pay for either airfares or fuel for your move to Melbourne, but you're on your own for the move to Brisbane after the course finishes.
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Old 6th Jan 2013, 04:47
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On a more positive note,
A recent course was considerably below that average.
must mean another course/courses had above average success, if you think about it

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Old 7th Jan 2013, 02:56
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Hello everyone, my name is Trent, been lurking around these forums for a bit but haven't posted. I too have been trying to get into the ATC training program, and I just got my formal offer a couple of days ago. They want me to be in Melbourne on Feb 25th to begin the course, with my final location being Brisbane.

I was wondering if there's anyone else here who is doing the same course who might be interested in bunking up down in Melbourne. I don't know anyone down there, so I'll have to rent out a place, and I'd much rather be living with the people I'll be working with. If anyone is interested shoot me a message on here and we'll see if we can work something out.
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Old 8th Jan 2013, 07:43
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Hellish Flame, Check your PM's. I'm on the same course but will be looking for a fully furnished place. If anyone here knows of anywhere, please let me know!
Also a question to the guys who have started/finished their training. The USB you get given, is it those exact files you'll be studying initially, or is it just a good ballpark area for knowledge!
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Old 8th Jan 2013, 08:33
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Originally Posted by shack87
The USB you get given, is it those exact files you'll be studying initially, or is it just a good ballpark area for knowledge! (sic)
http://www.pprune.org/atc-issues/490...uirements.html
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 05:08
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Ruth,

If you'd like to get some reading done my advice would be to download the AIP Book from the ASA website (it's free), and become familiar with pretty much all of the GEN and ENR sections. People have said on here that studying this information will only help you during the first 2 months (theory phase) of your training and not to bother. Well, while it is true that a LOT of the theory is derived straight from that book, I disagree with those posters. A lot of the information in that book will be relevant to you for the length of your career.

Then again, I've only been around 18+ years so I'm not sure I qualify as having a long career. Yet!
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 05:40
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Agree with Hempy, I've been around a bit longer (40 years) but non op now and AIP was/is a constant reference. Although some say it only helps for the first two months, if you are already familiar, it's a much easier two months. It is great to cross reference AIP with MATS and see how similar information is published in each. Doing that makes it easier to see how aircrews relate to ATC. When you get into the field, you will be referred to AIP during AIRAC amendment cycles. Operation controllers are required to remain familiar with AIP. If you have quiet time during a shift, flick through all types of documents. It's amazing how often you'll find something new of get a slightly different view of things. All the best for the course.
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It's worth having a look at some of the links in this post http://www.pprune.org/7185789-post1907.html as well, especially if you don't have an aviation background.

I'll second what Hempy and Fujii said about the AIP, you'll use it a hell of a lot during the theory phase, but it's also knowledge you'll need when you get to the sim. The better you know it, the easier it'll be to recall it when you're under pressure. AIP GEN 3.4 is a good start.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 09:42
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ATC Trainee interview on Monday

Hi guys, I will be attending an assessment centre on Monday and I gotta say I have no idea what my chances look like to get this position and I was hoping I could get some replies from hopefully both successful and unsuccessful applicants to let me know where they draw the line... Any advice or helpful preparation tips would be enormously appreciated!!!
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