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NATS January 2008 Pay Rise

Old 18th Sep 2007, 11:47
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NATS January 2008 Pay Rise

Good news for NATS ATCOs, bad news for the company.
August RPI is 4.1 %
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 13:22
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Believe me.... They can afford it!
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 14:07
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Excuse the ignorance, but what are we getting in January?

RPI +1 , or just RPI!!

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Old 18th Sep 2007, 14:16
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Its just basic RPI... but there is an additional rise of 0.25% for non ATCOs to replace the option of BUPA membership given to ATCOs

So effectively its RPI+0.25% for the rest

(edited after re-reading the terms )
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 15:21
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I believe that The Management have asked to enter into discussions with The Unions about pay rises from Jan 2009. Nice and early but I wonder if the actual money will be in our pockets on the correct date!

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Old 18th Sep 2007, 15:25
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When / who is entitled to bupa membership? Being a product of the "new" trainee contract i half expect to have been written out of all future payrises, bupa schemes and other such nice things. What does the payrise actually mean? 4% of your salary increase?
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 15:37
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All ATCOs get BUPA cover from Jan, I think....personal cover only.

ATCO1s and SATCOs get family cover.

Stand to be corrected.
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 15:42
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Gonzo you are right, however ATCO's have the option to upgrade to family cover at the corporate rate whatever that may be.
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 16:10
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Hopefully information will be given out by january ref. the BUPA. Anyone have any idea what the upgrade to family cover might be?
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 16:12
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Didn't realise that Radar.

I'm already with BUPA, so I hope there'll be an easy way to transfer.
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 16:16
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As far as I am aware, the Jan 2008 pay rise is not based on current RPI. It was only the initial Jan 2007 pay rise which was RPI based. The rise next Jan has already been factored into the pay scales and is approx 2.1%.
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 17:57
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point5, you are incorrect.

Jan 2006 2.8%
Jan 2007 RPI (was actually 3.4%, there was no underpinning)
Jan 2008 RPI (underpinned at 2.6%)

The January increase will be the August RPI of 4.1%

Also all ATCOs get individual BUPA from the same date.

The published scales you have seen include the underpin 2.6%, do the maths !

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Old 18th Sep 2007, 18:28
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And what do the ATSAs get?
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 18:51
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And what do the ATSAs get?
The same reward as always for a good job, well done. No punishment

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Old 19th Sep 2007, 08:38
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As stated above... without doubt:

ATCO grades: 4.1% + BUPA
non ATCO grades: 4.1% + 0.25% = 4.35%

And yes, the money will be in pay in January... They've had 2 years warning after all

I'm not surprised they are in a hurry to start talking pay from '09 onwards. High RPI means operating costs are going to be higher that all their current forecasts... So they'll want to do something about that... The old pensions debate will get thrown in too!
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 16:09
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4.1% + BUPA for all NATS ATCO's. Not!

Poor old LXGB, in spite of being assured we are all part of the big NATS brotherhood, won't get anything like that. Same as we don't get UHP, 30 days leave, LV's, OJTI allowance etc etc. Still, mustn't complain: it's nice and sunny, and a litre of Bells only costs about 7.50.

(Above might be of note to those worried about the Barron splitting NATS. It's already happened, but we're too small for anybody to notice).
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 17:36
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radar,

Time to put in for a posting-how does Aberdeen sound?
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 22:53
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Well there a guy in ISZ who wants to go to LXGB.ISZ has a good quality of life and not too bad working environment.Weather could be better but as the Rev William Connolly says ''No such thing as bad weather,just the wrong kind of clothes''.
The only problem with Aberdeen Airport ATC is that they are doing a Band 4 or 5 job at Band 2 pay.....
When will the fact that Aberdeen is fractionally busier than a Band 3 unit in the Midlands be looked at.And it does a vast amount of work for a certain Band 4 unit near Paddy's milestone.Jan 2008 the higher band units get even more,but the ones that have been shafted to keep the Band4/5's happy get the usual treatment.Band 2 unit busier than Band 3.

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Old 20th Sep 2007, 04:52
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throwadyce.....

Whilst I may agree with your gripe about the banding issues at some units, your comment of -
Jan 2008 the higher band units get even more,but the ones that have been shafted to keep the Band4/5's happy get the usual treatment
is very disingenuous... LXGB apart, we are all getting (ATCO wise) 4.1%.

Maybe it is time for you to apply for a transfer to a higher banded unit, if it irks you so much. After all, you state you would earn more at a less busy unit - therefor you obviously know/think you are up to the task.

"Money, mouth; interrogative position check, over"
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Old 20th Sep 2007, 08:39
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4.1% + BUPA for all NATS ATCO's. Not!

Poor old LXGB, in spite of being assured we are all part of the big NATS brotherhood, won't get anything like that. Same as we don't get UHP, 30 days leave, LV's, OJTI allowance etc etc. Still, mustn't complain: it's nice and sunny, and a litre of Bells only costs about 7.50.

(Above might be of note to those worried about the Barron splitting NATS. It's already happened, but we're too small for anybody to notice).
I admit to limited knowledge of the dragged-out pay negotiations there.. but I do believe there were improvements made. Are you not better off now than before the Barron arrived on the rock?
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