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Old 5th Nov 2007, 19:53
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Maybe it would be better for them if they stalled until the ATC contract was sorted anyway. Just a comment.

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Old 7th Nov 2007, 20:24
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That offer from Airways is pathetic in my opinion. What exactly was the first deal that didn't ratify? This can't be much better.
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Old 8th Nov 2007, 08:12
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The first deal that failed ratification was for a three year term, with that huge retention bonus ($4000 before tax of 39%) being paid at the end of the three years. The "new deal" for which we have to wait for all the details is for only two years...of which one has almost past. That huge retention bonus remains the same, but as its only a two year deal, it gets paid out so much sooner...... The payrise in year one looks to be the same with a small increase over the failed deal for the second year. In round figures its going to be 5% in year one with about 5% in year two.

Given the current problems (yes, we lost another 3 last week and the pay increases in "the Sands" have a lot running for their passports) this new deal will do little to sort out the staffing problems in the frozen wastelands.

For those who are considering comming to the "land of the long white cloud", make sure you do your homework! Dear old Aunty makes NZ sound like a paradise and that controllers salaries more than enough to live like a king!

The last two imports didn't last long, one of them achieved a whole hours worth of OJTI before leaving to go to the Sands...... Reason given was that the cost of living was much higher than expected (as advised by Aunty) and the salary was useless!

Meanwhile the number of tin budgies flying continue to increase, staff numbers are on a slow decline but we've got the promise of that huge retention bonus............................so the decline may well be about to speed up.

I'll be voting NO, NO, NO WAY.....again................ and if things don't get better soon will end up voting with my feet one way or another.
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Old 8th Nov 2007, 16:30
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Seems like that HUGE retention bonus is missing a zero!!!
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Question AsA recruits

A bit OT but have heard a rumour downunder that about 8 NZ recruits have pulled out of the AsA recruiting drive after receiving offers. Rumour has it they didn't like the bond arrangement (who would) and stayed home pending the NZ EBA negotiations. Anyone care to confirm???

Hope the rest of the negotiations go better, doesn't sound very promising so far...

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Old 11th Nov 2007, 19:10
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Seems like the T&S negotiators may have thrashed out a deal ....
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Old 13th Nov 2007, 03:13
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Look forward to hearing the details there, hope they have done well
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Old 13th Nov 2007, 05:48
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Maybe it would be now better for the controllers if they stalled until T & S contract was sorted. Just a comment.

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Old 13th Nov 2007, 06:10
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Well yeah, it could be like 7% pa or more, who knows after they managed to secure the same Superannuation details. This will be worth seeing...
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Old 13th Nov 2007, 10:33
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Them and us

Good on the techs if they've a better deal than the ATC's as I'm sure the tech group have been bleeding staff at the same rate
If thats the case then all the ATC's have to do is bleat about how it's just not fair that they've got more than us and given past experience I'm sure the solution will be for Airways to do all they can to marginalise the Tech's deal to keep the poor ATC's happy.... NOT!
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Old 13th Nov 2007, 19:28
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There's no way the techs will get a better deal than ATC - they don't have the numbers, and the company continues to whittle away at the CEA - they want to get rid of it. I've heard the deal is for 3 yrs - about 4.6% + $1000 Yr 1, ACPI + 1% Yrs 2 & 3. (Adjusted CPI is official CPI + .15%, I think).
The deal is meant to take into account the disparity in super contributions....
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Old 22nd Nov 2007, 19:17
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I hear that the T&S deal is likely to be accepted .... what gives on the ATC contract?
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 20:44
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Close date for ATC returns 28th (Nov) so I guess we should find out by Friday at the latest as to the out come.

From what I hear it could go either way.

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Old 26th Nov 2007, 19:11
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Which Way?

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What happend to your post?

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Old 26th Nov 2007, 21:47
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 02:45
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K

Maybe this might help.

I want a job in Dubai - I have yet to get an offer.

I want to win lotto - I have yet to get the right numbers. (mind you a job in Dubai would be prety much the same thing )

What will be, will be. See what Thursday/Friday bring.

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Old 28th Nov 2007, 03:43
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Just thro'

ATC contract ratified

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Old 28th Nov 2007, 07:32
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Any juicy details?
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Old 4th Dec 2007, 11:20
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Anyone out there? We'd love to hear what happened...
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Old 5th Dec 2007, 01:25
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ATC contract ratified

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Seems pretty clear to me?!
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