Thanks Luton
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Thanks Luton
Grateful to Luton for a radar service on CAM-WCO and return legs today in messy wx, particularly for the offer to climb into the CTA to increase separation from a converging track separated by just 400 ft. I wonder how London LARS is going to manage a trick like that? 
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Stuck record I know, but I have to say thanks again for a RIS Saturday afternoon on a WCO-CAM leg with gliders everywhere. Very pragmatic service despite being quite busy, and a very significant aid to safety. Thank you Sir.
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As a regular rotary wing zone crosser, I would agree that the Luton controllers are very helpful folk indeed (as are all the London area controllers).
However, sometimes it is obvious (from listening out on frequency for a minute or so before transmitting) that they are obviously under a daunting workload. In those instances I go round / under the airspace so as not to add to the bunfight!
However, sometimes it is obvious (from listening out on frequency for a minute or so before transmitting) that they are obviously under a daunting workload. In those instances I go round / under the airspace so as not to add to the bunfight!
So Bookworm, you were being provided with RIS, and ATC separated you from other traffic; but RIS is for pilots to provide their own separation!
Actually most controllers (regretfully not all) would probably have done something to resolve a confliction like this, irrespective of service being provided.
Actually most controllers (regretfully not all) would probably have done something to resolve a confliction like this, irrespective of service being provided.
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So Bookworm, you were being provided with RIS, and ATC separated you from other traffic; but RIS is for pilots to provide their own separation!
But seriously, that's what I mean by "pragmatic". Just because you can't offer standard separation and a RAS doesn't mean you can't help to resolve a conflict.
