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I'm sure the mug-thing has something to do with Fox3's fragile emotional state. I'm holding it ransom, Fox my boy, and it can be returned to you at a decent price and if you come back to Muscat!!
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ATCO...
You really know how to hurt a guy...everyone knows my mug is now in a better place, possibly loved up with a broken down cappuccino machine.
Oh how I miss mugsy....
Oh how I miss mugsy....
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Give him his mug back you mug.
Will he come back - he's having too much fun!
Besides the families who have arrived here of late are somewhat homeless due to the lack of quality accommodation at a rate that actually made it worthwhile to come here in the first place. I believe the DGCAM now knows how much it costs for reasonable accommodation and that figure came in at around 4 times what was quoted to us at recruiting time
Oh well, slight miscalculation there
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beware of Arabs poms & seffricans bearing gifts and false information
sorry to hear some of you new recruits to Muscat have been sold a bums steer!
I am not surprised, considering most others who have been there at some time over the last 10 years or so (incl yours truly) have been sold little puppy dogs by the likes of those described above. Once you are there you are sort of stuck and the plan to put away all that money suddenly comes crashing down in reality and after 2 or 3 years you wonder if it was actually worth it??
i know most of you would have worked for either AsA or Airways (in NZ) so surely you would have realised that western ANSP's always spin the bullsh*t, and that these bastards in the middle east are no different, only problem is you are a long way from home, and maybe home was better than where you jumped.
Next time people before you jump, dont beleive the "salesman" due you due diligence and if in doubt.....DONNNN'T .
Cheers
I am not surprised, considering most others who have been there at some time over the last 10 years or so (incl yours truly) have been sold little puppy dogs by the likes of those described above. Once you are there you are sort of stuck and the plan to put away all that money suddenly comes crashing down in reality and after 2 or 3 years you wonder if it was actually worth it??
i know most of you would have worked for either AsA or Airways (in NZ) so surely you would have realised that western ANSP's always spin the bullsh*t, and that these bastards in the middle east are no different, only problem is you are a long way from home, and maybe home was better than where you jumped.
Next time people before you jump, dont beleive the "salesman" due you due diligence and if in doubt.....DONNNN'T .
Cheers
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This is all coming from a man who is the reason the Employers in the Middle East check our flats for the existence of floor coverings before allowing us to leave.
The reality is in the UAE Centre at least, forget all the emotional rubbish from managers trying to woo you to come here, or ex-employees with axes to grind and big chips on their shoulders trying to stop you from coming. Just do your own figures and work out for yourself if it is right for you.
Sorry to the guys who feel they have been shafted in Oman but come on guys, do your research before you come. Search on google for Muscat Real estate and you will see what the going rates for accomodation are, call the schools to get the tuition fees and then sit down and work out your in pocket savings. There is no excuse these days to claim ignorance after the fact with all the resources available on the internet these days.
Bottom line PMS is with guys with no kids at school pocketing about 25,000 dh's after accomodation, air fares, medical insurance and utilities are taken out, they are a lot better off than they would ever be back in Oz or NZ. Cheers
The reality is in the UAE Centre at least, forget all the emotional rubbish from managers trying to woo you to come here, or ex-employees with axes to grind and big chips on their shoulders trying to stop you from coming. Just do your own figures and work out for yourself if it is right for you.
Sorry to the guys who feel they have been shafted in Oman but come on guys, do your research before you come. Search on google for Muscat Real estate and you will see what the going rates for accomodation are, call the schools to get the tuition fees and then sit down and work out your in pocket savings. There is no excuse these days to claim ignorance after the fact with all the resources available on the internet these days.
Bottom line PMS is with guys with no kids at school pocketing about 25,000 dh's after accomodation, air fares, medical insurance and utilities are taken out, they are a lot better off than they would ever be back in Oz or NZ. Cheers
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ANSA (or should I say di*k head)
enough of your ridiculous rantings.
firstly, make sure you have your target identified correctly before you fire your arrow...oh yeah forgot this is a rather bad habit of yours and one which I remember you developed well in Oz!! Again, china wrong man wrong situation.
Mate why dont you get a bloody life...forgot you dont have one do you as work for Serco???
secondly, you have basically reiterated what I already said, thanks for that. As I said do your bloody homework before going there, believe no one, only the facts you uncover.
cheers big ears
enough of your ridiculous rantings.
firstly, make sure you have your target identified correctly before you fire your arrow...oh yeah forgot this is a rather bad habit of yours and one which I remember you developed well in Oz!! Again, china wrong man wrong situation.
Mate why dont you get a bloody life...forgot you dont have one do you as work for Serco???
secondly, you have basically reiterated what I already said, thanks for that. As I said do your bloody homework before going there, believe no one, only the facts you uncover.
cheers big ears
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PMS we all know who you are, so don't bother with the charade, but thanks for illustrating my point about guys with chips on their shoulders who have an axe to grind, thank you.
By the way did you stay up all night thinking up such a witty retort as
WOW!!! How can I battle such wits.
I guess all those sick days you took, leaving your workmates in the lurch covering you off standbys allowed you to become such a well read and articulate individual.
By the way did you stay up all night thinking up such a witty retort as
or should I say di*k head
I guess all those sick days you took, leaving your workmates in the lurch covering you off standbys allowed you to become such a well read and articulate individual.
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come on guys !!
Hey there !
Why don't you talk to each other guys!
A forum is not a place to throw insults !
Everybody as the right to say what he think about a situation or a place to work.
Even if you don't agree, you can still respect other point of view!
Cheers and have a cold one!
Why don't you talk to each other guys!
A forum is not a place to throw insults !
Everybody as the right to say what he think about a situation or a place to work.
Even if you don't agree, you can still respect other point of view!
Cheers and have a cold one!
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PMS, Chillax!
ANSA made a very good point. (yes I said it) Everyone should do their homework before coming out to the ME...
Saying, "Well they told me accomodation would be cheaper then it really is" is no excuse with the resources available these days. A quick look on hamptons.com followed by a phone call to see if these places really exsit for the price shown works well... And I am speaking from experience, when I came to DXB, I had no idea how much rents were and how hard a good place is to find... I should have done my research, can't blame anyone but myself about that.
Also, anyone who has gone from NZ to Oman will have more money in their hand at the end of the day. We all saw what NZ is paying when they did their interviews out here. Will these new guys in Oman bank huge coin in 2-3 years? No, I think those days are done out here. But they WILL make more then back home. Wether the move out here is worth it??? That's for them to decide.
ANSA, pay no mind, save your shots for us in DXB when we ask for parrallel headings thru maxmo into your inbounds
P.S. If I work for Serco I have no life??? That wasn't in my contract...
ANSA made a very good point. (yes I said it) Everyone should do their homework before coming out to the ME...
Saying, "Well they told me accomodation would be cheaper then it really is" is no excuse with the resources available these days. A quick look on hamptons.com followed by a phone call to see if these places really exsit for the price shown works well... And I am speaking from experience, when I came to DXB, I had no idea how much rents were and how hard a good place is to find... I should have done my research, can't blame anyone but myself about that.
Also, anyone who has gone from NZ to Oman will have more money in their hand at the end of the day. We all saw what NZ is paying when they did their interviews out here. Will these new guys in Oman bank huge coin in 2-3 years? No, I think those days are done out here. But they WILL make more then back home. Wether the move out here is worth it??? That's for them to decide.
ANSA, pay no mind, save your shots for us in DXB when we ask for parrallel headings thru maxmo into your inbounds
P.S. If I work for Serco I have no life??? That wasn't in my contract...
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tks clr4tkof
clr4tkof and all
I agree that the forum is no place for insults and ANSA should take note of this. Yes, I have been insulted by ANSA's posts as there was no need or provocation for it.
And i believe that if everyone has read the posts correctly, at no time when I made my 0454 post yesterday (when making the point that those that go to the ME should do their homework)...did I ever make any derrogatory comments to ANSA. However, ANSA has taken umbridge to what I said about doing ones due diligence, because he obviously didn't and is now stuck in the sandpit, so decided he better shoot the messenger to make himself feel better.
Also, I was talking to the guys with kids of school age not the single or married (with no kids) guys who dont have to incur this cost, so I suggest ANSA that you read the posts carefully before replying and taking out your frustration on others who are only trying to help people with their decision making process. by the way ANSA there are no chips on shoulders here mate, better check yours though bucko!
Futr-kofeshop-dweler, thanks for the mentioning "a very good point made" but I believe, if you read the posts carefully, I was the one that made the good points about doing due diligence before making the move; ANSA just reiterated this and then threw mud and made slanderous comments like he usually does, because that is all he is good at. (hope he sequences better than he posts).
PMS out
I agree that the forum is no place for insults and ANSA should take note of this. Yes, I have been insulted by ANSA's posts as there was no need or provocation for it.
And i believe that if everyone has read the posts correctly, at no time when I made my 0454 post yesterday (when making the point that those that go to the ME should do their homework)...did I ever make any derrogatory comments to ANSA. However, ANSA has taken umbridge to what I said about doing ones due diligence, because he obviously didn't and is now stuck in the sandpit, so decided he better shoot the messenger to make himself feel better.
Also, I was talking to the guys with kids of school age not the single or married (with no kids) guys who dont have to incur this cost, so I suggest ANSA that you read the posts carefully before replying and taking out your frustration on others who are only trying to help people with their decision making process. by the way ANSA there are no chips on shoulders here mate, better check yours though bucko!
Futr-kofeshop-dweler, thanks for the mentioning "a very good point made" but I believe, if you read the posts carefully, I was the one that made the good points about doing due diligence before making the move; ANSA just reiterated this and then threw mud and made slanderous comments like he usually does, because that is all he is good at. (hope he sequences better than he posts).
PMS out
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Payrise
A little bird just told me that Abu Dhabi government workers just received a huge pay increase, in some cases more than 100%, to help cope with the cost of living increases. Not sure if it was all government workers or only those working for ADAC.
I guess this means SERCo will be following suit shortly !!!!!!!!!!!
I guess this means SERCo will be following suit shortly !!!!!!!!!!!
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PMS, I did a lot of research before I came out thanks very much, and I love the job and enjoy the lifestyle. I am putting away heaps more money than I could ever hope to in Oz, but unlike some who have burnt all their bridges around the world, I can choose when I want to leave and where I want to go. It is great to still have all those choices open to me. Currently with the great money on offer here, I choose to stay.
My issue is with all the negative generalisations you make about working in the Middle East, and the obviously skewed view you have due to a personal axe to grind, such as,
A lot of the guys here now are saving heaps, and paying off their mortgages etc. back in Oz much faster than they could ever do if still with ASA. That includes guys with kids in school. You do know the salary we are on now don't you? If so do the figures and you will soon see that the money in hand at the end of the month is way above what you would have in your habd with ASA or Airways in NZ.
Finally I have to be honest I didn't even notice you told people to do their research before coming out. I assume you are referring to this well written sentence,
Hmmm
My issue is with all the negative generalisations you make about working in the Middle East, and the obviously skewed view you have due to a personal axe to grind, such as,
Once you are there you are sort of stuck and the plan to put away all that money suddenly comes crashing down in reality and after 2 or 3 years you wonder if it was actually worth it??
Finally I have to be honest I didn't even notice you told people to do their research before coming out. I assume you are referring to this well written sentence,
dont beleive the "salesman" due you due diligence
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OMAA payrise
Heard the rumour too. It seems to be locals only (DCA employees) with new payscales ranging from 35,000 - 90,000Dhs a month. This is the airport, not the centre.
Anyone from OMAA care to comment or quantify?
Anyone from OMAA care to comment or quantify?
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final post to ANSA
ANSA
this is the last time I intend to respond to your drivel. First up I am happy for you that you enjoy the job and the lifestyle there. So did I for most of it!
also, happy to hear some of the lads there are saving money and paying off their mortgages. Beware of the rising dollar though!
There is nothing negative by describing the reality for a majority of expats in the ME. this majority do not save that much, yes some do but most do not, due to the horrendous increase in living costs over recent years. nothing negative there mate, just a healthy dose of reality which new bods there need. And for the last time I have no axe to grind, as can be seen in relevant post.
lastly, you are obviously very misinformed ... my bridges are not all burnt "around the world" as you put it and I am back in the seat in a land not too far away from you.
and yes it was well written, very much to the point one would think.
over and out
this is the last time I intend to respond to your drivel. First up I am happy for you that you enjoy the job and the lifestyle there. So did I for most of it!
also, happy to hear some of the lads there are saving money and paying off their mortgages. Beware of the rising dollar though!
There is nothing negative by describing the reality for a majority of expats in the ME. this majority do not save that much, yes some do but most do not, due to the horrendous increase in living costs over recent years. nothing negative there mate, just a healthy dose of reality which new bods there need. And for the last time I have no axe to grind, as can be seen in relevant post.
lastly, you are obviously very misinformed ... my bridges are not all burnt "around the world" as you put it and I am back in the seat in a land not too far away from you.
and yes it was well written, very much to the point one would think.
over and out
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PMS...
SO you got a jersey with Safeskies huh?!
How will you go on your R & R if you have to transit via UAE and the rug police turn up? 
Red Dragon...
The GCAA staff have just recieved 2 months salary this year for the bonus and the salary review has been ordered by the board to improve the salaries to the market rate. This is the formality that Abu Dhabi DCA went through to arrive at their new pay structure so will be interesting to see what GCAA come up with. This information was also published in the local Arabic newspapers so not of a sensative nature.
SO you got a jersey with Safeskies huh?!
How will you go on your R & R if you have to transit via UAE and the rug police turn up? Red Dragon...
The GCAA staff have just recieved 2 months salary this year for the bonus and the salary review has been ordered by the board to improve the salaries to the market rate. This is the formality that Abu Dhabi DCA went through to arrive at their new pay structure so will be interesting to see what GCAA come up with. This information was also published in the local Arabic newspapers so not of a sensative nature.
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You think bridges aren't burnt when you have to resort to working in Afghanistan to earn a crust.
As Fox said you better hope you don't get sent to Qatar or the UAE on R & R, otherwise you may have an interesting conversation with the immigration officials, and since all of the GCC countries share absconder info now you may have to watch yourself in a lot of places.
Final point is that you are wrong again with your generalisation that,
Rent for people in Serco accomodation has gone up 7% in the past year, and on average 10% the year before. In that 2 years, the Centre controllers take home salary has risen by on average 50%, with some guys take home salary almost doubling. Since this thread was asking about UAE Centre guys I think your generalisation is at best irrelevant and at worst complete bollocks.
As Fox said you better hope you don't get sent to Qatar or the UAE on R & R, otherwise you may have an interesting conversation with the immigration officials, and since all of the GCC countries share absconder info now you may have to watch yourself in a lot of places.
Final point is that you are wrong again with your generalisation that,
describing the reality for a majority of expats in the ME. this majority do not save that much, yes some do but most do not, due to the horrendous increase in living costs over recent years