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NATS interview process

Old 7th Feb 2019, 14:15
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Feel like I have been reading these pages for hours!!

Online tests passed in the last few days and invited for Stage 2 early March.

Happy with learning all the booklet information - so difficult to try and tell yourself you can't prep for FEAST and DART! Goes against all my instincts to try and prep as much as you can ha!

Some great info here!

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Old 7th Feb 2019, 19:02
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Originally Posted by The Fat Controller View Post
What Band 1 unit is in a low cost area ?

Cost of living has and will always be an issue, hence the old "London Weighting" in the distant past.

Up until recently tax has not been an issue.

The Armed Forces are looking into making sure everyone gets the same take home pay wherever they work.

Prospect, the union that looks after ATCOs, rejected a clause at conference regarding this issue, you should ask them why.

Best of luck to you all wherever you end up.
Southampton v Farnborough?

Band 2 has an even better example..... Glasgow v Bristol! Certainly a lot cheaper to live in Glasgow compared to Bristol.

Also worth adding that trainees are not paid shift allowances until the license is validated (completion of on the job training).
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 15:13
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Originally Posted by Lemonair View Post
If it helps, when I had my medical the facilitator mentioned that you're pre-sorted into a red/amber/green category based on the paperwork you submit beforehand and how likely you are to pass. You could try emailing them to ask which category you've been sorted into, I don't know whether they'd tell you but it's worth a go I suppose. It might give you an indication of how attainable your certificate could be. Equally it could be a bit of a double edged sword as the category they sort you into doesn't necessarily reflect what the outcome of the medical could be.
Thanks for the advice. I think there was something about categories on the initial medical form that we had to fill in.
Knowing the category won't really help though as we can't prepare for it. And like you said, the category we're sorted into doesn't have to reflect the outcome of the medical. I guess I'll just have to wait and be positive about it.
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Old 9th Feb 2019, 23:31
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Originally Posted by HannahWrigley View Post


ive got my medical on the 29th January so couple of weeks time. If you want to be added to our WhatsApp group feel free to message me your number c:
Hi Hannah, I also start on 29th April 2019 if you could message me and add me to the WhatsApp chat please?
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 10:40
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So for those who have had their stage 3 assessment recently how many days prior it did you receive an email with an allocated time slot? I have my stage 3 on Wednesday at Hampshire but I have had no emails from them 🤔
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 10:41
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Originally Posted by RussLee View Post
So for those who have had their stage 3 assessment recently how many days prior it did you receive an email with an allocated time slot? I have my stage 3 on Wednesday at Hampshire but I have had no emails from them 🤔
I got an email 2 days before I think. Might be worth phoning or dropping them an email if you havenít heard anything
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 10:50
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Originally Posted by HannahWrigley View Post


I got an email 2 days before I think. Might be worth phoning or dropping them an email if you havenít heard anything
OK I may just do that. Thanks Hannah.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 08:19
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Hey guys, anyone on here from Stage 2 yesterday(11/02)? Having made it through to the DART tests again, that is where my journey ends, again! Perhaps i'm just not cut out to be ATC as twice now I have failed on the DART!

Good news though, the process is changing from April with stages 1 and 2 being online before proceeding to stage 3 interview and anyone who has recently failed can re-apply from April, no need to wait a year!
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 20:13
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Originally Posted by Whispering87 View Post
Hey guys, anyone on here from Stage 2 yesterday(11/02)? Having made it through to the DART tests again, that is where my journey ends, again! Perhaps i'm just not cut out to be ATC as twice now I have failed on the DART!

Good news though, the process is changing from April with stages 1 and 2 being online before proceeding to stage 3 interview and anyone who has recently failed can re-apply from April, no need to wait a year!
Without wishing to sound too harsh, if you've failed the DART tests twice you may well not be the right type for air traffic. I don't mean that in a rude way, it's just a fact that some people have their brains wired the right way to do the job and some don't. There's some that make it through the second stage and the interviews would find them out and there's some who make it through the interviews as well - because as we all know there's enough floating around the internet and PMs on this forum to allow anyone to be pretty well prepared for the interview stage. However, it will catch up with you at some point and then you've wasted a load of time trying to get a job that you just don't have the aptitude for and you're back at square one having wasted over a year of your life with nothing to really show for it.

That said, don't let me put you off. I know of several people that I work with who got in after more than one attempt and they're very competent controllers.

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Old 12th Feb 2019, 23:13
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Good luck with your stage 3 RussLee!
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 07:16
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Originally Posted by The Many Tentacles View Post
Without wishing to sound too harsh, if you've failed the DART tests twice you may well not be the right type for air traffic. I don't mean that in a rude way, it's just a fact that some people have their brains wired the right way to do the job and some don't. There's some that make it through the second stage and the interviews would find them out and there's some who make it through the interviews as well - because as we all know there's enough floating around the internet and PMs on this forum to allow anyone to be pretty well prepared for the interview stage. However, it will catch up with you at some point and then you've wasted a load of time trying to get a job that you just don't have the aptitude for and you're back at square one having wasted over a year of your life with nothing to really show for it.

That said, don't let me put you off. I know of several people that I work with who got in after more than one attempt and they're very competent controllers.
It's cool, I get it. I feel comfortable for the most part and have no issue getting through FEAST, it's just when they turn up the heat in the final stage of dart, I tend to lose track! A big part of the job I know!!

I may give it one more go. It's been a few years between tests and I'd forgot quite how dart went so I could really immerse myself in practice specifically around that for one final crack.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 10:03
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Does this mean that from April NATS will no longer be using the FEAST or DART tests ( perhaps Europe said non! ). The rate of attrition in the FEAST test is very high. Are NATS dumbing down sorry, I meant streamlining, the selection process.

It’s not like they have done that before ;-)

Rgds
Ayr

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Old 13th Feb 2019, 11:38
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AyrTC From what I was told during my Stage 2 last week is that FEAST & DART will still apply but will be undertaken like the earlier Stage sections at home. I stand happy to be corrected but that was the gist of it from the instructor present last week.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 12:28
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Thanks StuBob
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 12:55
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Originally Posted by StuBob View Post
AyrTC From what I was told during my Stage 2 last week is that FEAST & DART will still apply but will be undertaken like the earlier Stage sections at home. I stand happy to be corrected but that was the gist of it from the instructor present last week.
That's how I understood it too
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 15:13
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Hi all,

I have been waiting to book my stage 2 the last few weeks and I have just got the email regarding the new process. Iím unsure what to do... quickly book up to do my stage 2 in March or wait and just apply through new process again. Anyone any insight/opinions?
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 16:40
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Originally Posted by ajborthwick View Post
Hi all,

I have been waiting to book my stage 2 the last few weeks and I have just got the email regarding the new process. Iím unsure what to do... quickly book up to do my stage 2 in March or wait and just apply through new process again. Anyone any insight/opinions?
Personal preference but if it was me I'd rather travel to the office as it makes it more real. I remember when doing stage 0/1 at home I was distracted during one of the sections by someone coming into the study to faff around with something while I was trying to concentrate. I would've been a bit peeved if that had happened during the later stages, which are so much harder. I found being in the right environment at the test centre made sure my head was really in the game. It also gives you a bit of familiarity if you make it to Stage 3 too.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 16:44
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Hi, I'm currently waiting to sit my stage 2 (currently studying an unrelated course at uni so was waiting until April to sit stage 2), however, I've just had an email stating stage 2 will need to be completed by the end of March and if sucessful, stage 3 by the end of April. Due to uni placements, I could only now sit stage 2 in Feb. What I am wondering is realistically, how long did it take to learn the booklet well enough to pass the test? Whilst I am aware everyone learns at different rates, I am loathed to spend £300 to travel down from Ayrshire with not enough prep time but would have to start from scratch with my application in April 2019, if I don't. Any advice appreciated!
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 16:46
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Originally Posted by Lemonair View Post
Personal preference but if it was me I'd rather travel to the office as it makes it more real. I remember when doing stage 0/1 at home I was distracted during one of the sections by someone coming into the study to faff around with something while I was trying to concentrate. I would've been a bit peeved if that had happened during the later stages, which are so much harder. I found being in the right environment at the test centre made sure my head was really in the game. It also gives you a bit of familiarity if you make it to Stage 3 too.
100% agree!!
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 17:13
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Out of interest, is anyone lurking on here booked onto the 8th May course in Jerez? I've yet to find any course mates!
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