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NATS interview process

Old 16th Mar 2014, 15:09
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I think it comes from the fact that you can fail your medical, it is very rare but it happens. Therefore the infographic I think described the medical and security clearances as "stage 4", the difference being that most people pass the "stage 4" with no issues. Those that do have issues normally pass it after a bit of extra work is put in.

That's my take on it anyway.
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Old 18th Mar 2014, 20:07
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Yeah saw that too. That was there position on March 11th too.

Shame they can't give anymore details. I felt the large Stage 2 session they gave just finished would have paved the way for Stage 3 for the successful applicants.

It is interesting to see that they are still taking applicants, and would be even more interesting to have someone at the stage 2 level asking questions here.

Maybe it is a case of not enough people being successful in the 8 or so weeks just past to warrant a Stage 3 date yet. I'd certainly be intrigued to hear form any other March 7th guys.

A few posts before that on their careers page they had responded to someone saying that stage 3 was in the process of being scheduled. Must be a dynamic situation.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 00:07
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waiting for stage 3

Hi Guys,

Don't want to put a downer on things but I passed Stage 2 in June of last year and am still waiting for a stage 3 date.

You have to consider SES is going to have a huge impact on ATC numbers required. Once the college knows how many candidates are needed for a new training course the dates will be set but with a new intake just started training this year we could be waiting a good while longer yet
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 10:42
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Oh yes, SES will have a huge impact. In terms of the way NATS are struggling to keep up with their European counterparts and are continuing to fail miserably when investing in their training system. Management and so called 'HR Business Partners' sadly have ridiculous amounts of control over training and numbers. 'Short term view' comes to mind.

I wish you all the very best of luck if applying, but feel very sorry for those going through the NATS training system - it certainly isn't what it once was. There is very little investment in their people, absolutely no research into why trainees fail at the several phases of training and certainly no steps taken which might assist in preventing the failures. Instead, there are mind boggling numbers of alleged business masterminds who deem it appropriate to take ownership over who stays and who goes. I have seen it happen on countless occasions. I speak from first hand experience and can honestly say that NATS needs major, major reform in training if claims of being a 'World Leader' are to continue...
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 18:12
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When was the last Stage 3? I'm amazed that the last one was before last summer, yet they are only starting training this year.

I have to imagine that they set the wheels in motion recently in an attempt to bring a new cohort of trainees in. NATS brought in a new Talent Acquisition Specialist, I believe it was Claire - who was overseeing the Stage 2 days. They also recently reposted the ATC advert on their Facebook page, seems like a lot of effort to go to in order to just pool people.

I know I am biased in as far as I'm trying to maintain a positive outlook for the near future, but that would be how I see how NATS have moved recently.
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Old 31st Mar 2014, 10:03
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Stage 3

I also passed 7th March and am still awaiting a date. It's only been 3 weeks since the email confirmation but so eager. Worrying reading some passed in June last year
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 10:05
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Stage 0 and 1

Hi, does NATS provide any practise examples of these tests?

And does anyone have any example of the types of questions?

E.g a verbal question example

a numerical example

and a error checking example.

Would be much appreciated.

Cheers
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 17:19
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@Bigchap83 - Once you open the test link, you are given example questions for each of the sub-tests exactly as they appear in the 'real thing'. Good luck!
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 18:11
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I passed my Stage 1 online assessments last night (the second set), pretty pleased to be honest, I found them quite tough. Though, of course we don't know the pass requirement.

Anyway, the email they sent me (as everyone's aware), said there's no current assessment dates planned.

So, I guess we wait!
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Old 4th Apr 2014, 14:52
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Stage 3

I passed my stage 2 back in January. I was in the group which had a computer catch fire resulting in a long delay, but we got a free coffee so all good

Our group was told that if we were successful the following tests (Stage 3) would be in around a months time. That was 10 weeks ago and the only response I have had so far is that there are no dates for stage 3 planned at the moment. This is kind of annoying as my current employee is wanting to put me on a very expensive course, but my staff handbook says if i leave I will have to pay for all course taken in the last 9 months.

More information would be great if anyone has it so I know if I can go on the course. Thank you.
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Old 5th Apr 2014, 04:10
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I passed my stage 2 back in January. I was in the group which had a computer catch fire resulting in a long delay, but we got a free coffee so all good

Our group was told that if we were successful the following tests (Stage 3) would be in around a months time. That was 10 weeks ago and the only response I have had so far is that there are no dates for stage 3 planned at the moment. This is kind of annoying as my current employee is wanting to put me on a very expensive course, but my staff handbook says if i leave I will have to pay for all course taken in the last 9 months.

More information would be great if anyone has it so I know if I can go on the course. Thank you.
NATS already arguably have more ATCOs than they need.

As already mentioned SES if going to force down costs and potentially require even less staff to meet these lower costs.

There is even a question as to the viability of NATS keeping the college going.

I wouldnt be holding my breath if I was anyone not yet 100% throught the process and actually on a course. Loads of people holding in the system with no-where to go.

I would be working very actively on a plan B if I were you. Do the course at work now - I doubt you will be starting with NATS in the next 9 months anyway
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Old 5th Apr 2014, 14:39
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Yes, at the moment NATS have more controllers than they need but they also have a high attrition rate what with retirements, VRs and leavers. Historically NATS staffing has gone through peaks and troughs, just now we are in a peak and numbers through the college are low. I suspect that possibly next year NATS will realise that they are getting short again and the college throughput will ramp up. Although on the airports side this would also depend on pending contract renewals which I'm not really up to speed on.
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 02:59
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Thank The Lord my talent was acquired before the need of a manager and team so titled.It's a brave new world beckoning out there for you guys....have fun in it
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Old 6th May 2014, 16:22
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Just finished the first online assessment.

Not entirely sure how well I did but any idea how long I have to wait to receive a reply?
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Old 10th May 2014, 07:11
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Stage 0 eek

Hey all, just did Stage 0 after a long wait but was hoping someone would be so kind as to mail me the new ATC Motivational document please? Even though I may not make it, I would love to have a read

Thanks
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Old 10th May 2014, 13:11
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Hi!

Just, Good Luck
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Old 10th May 2014, 13:36
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Why do you need it? If you pass stage 0 you will be given it anyway, if you want to read up on ATC in general there is plenty on the internet. Start with the MATS pt 1 for example, but you'd better have a lot of free time!
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Old 20th May 2014, 23:32
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Is everyone also still waiting for their e-mail regarding stage 2 assessment dates?
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Old 29th May 2014, 20:24
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Status of NATS

I haven't posted on this site for a long time but having read through this topic regarding NATS' assessments, it amazes me how much has changed.

I applied to NATS over 2 years ago and got as far as (the old) Stage 1 but unfortunately wasn't successful. That day in Southampton was packed, they had a lot of Stage 1 assessments going on and the hotel was as crowded as could be. At the time, there was a huge demand for new recruits and I noticed how quickly dates were getting fully booked up. When I didn't get through, the decrease in stage dates showed, "nothing planned yet" seemed to be a common statement.

So coming up to a year since I sat my Stage 1 and they decided to change the time you had to wait between applying again from one year to two years so I decided to go the self-funding route as I didn't want to hang around much longer. I am (hopefully) not far off completing my ADI course and I have loved it.

Most of the stories I hear about NATS now seem to be much more negative then they use to be but then again, it happens to all companies, swings and roundabouts they say. It is always better to have a Plan B ready just in case what you originally plan on doing doesn't work out. I am glad I have decided to not wait around and go self-funded, it's a lot of money yes, but most of us love the industry and want to do what we love. So to those still waiting on NATS, good luck, don't give up but do have another plan ready just in case and I wish you all the best.
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Old 30th May 2014, 09:10
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Sound advice Jack.
My backup was to teach geography and I even applied to NATS to become an assistant…….It was a long time ago.
I worked with a few people who had funded themselves, all were great ATCOs, (one is now a senior ops manager with NATS).
Good luck with the rest of your course, have fun and let us know how you get on.
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