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In reply to Crazy Voyager;
Do we get any reimbursment of costs? As far as i am aware, NATS only cover the cost of the actual medical. I had to pay for my own transport.
Will there be one or two medicals? One medical is all i have sat, im not aware of any others. The details should be sent to you but its all basic stuff, nothing really worth worrying about unless you have anything in your medical history.
How much could you decide for yourself what date would be suitable, was there a waiting list also for this? I phoned up and asked for the nearest available date, i had to wait about 4 weeks for this but im sure they will accommodate you if that's too short a waiting period.
Just a side note, but i'm in the same boat as you. 1 to 1.5 year waiting period before a college place opens up.
Good Luck to anyone reading this who is going through the process!
Do we get any reimbursment of costs? As far as i am aware, NATS only cover the cost of the actual medical. I had to pay for my own transport.
Will there be one or two medicals? One medical is all i have sat, im not aware of any others. The details should be sent to you but its all basic stuff, nothing really worth worrying about unless you have anything in your medical history.
How much could you decide for yourself what date would be suitable, was there a waiting list also for this? I phoned up and asked for the nearest available date, i had to wait about 4 weeks for this but im sure they will accommodate you if that's too short a waiting period.
Just a side note, but i'm in the same boat as you. 1 to 1.5 year waiting period before a college place opens up.
Good Luck to anyone reading this who is going through the process!
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Hi to all,
Now, by what I understand often the fastest way to resolve problems is using fractions and looking for common denominators and simplifying, but what happens when you come across a problem such as the following... I mean, how do you get round to it??
At 223 mph, how far do you travel in 27 mins?, surely some faster way than multiplying 223*9/20 or 223*0.45...Thanksss
Now, by what I understand often the fastest way to resolve problems is using fractions and looking for common denominators and simplifying, but what happens when you come across a problem such as the following... I mean, how do you get round to it??
At 223 mph, how far do you travel in 27 mins?, surely some faster way than multiplying 223*9/20 or 223*0.45...Thanksss
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You shouldn't have anything as complicated in the NATS test but I would work it out like this.
223mph / 2 = 111.5 miles in 30mins.
111.5/10 = 11.15 miles in 3 minutes.
111.5 - 11.15 = 100.35 miles in 27minutes.
A lot easier to break it up into chunks when you don't have a calculator.
223mph / 2 = 111.5 miles in 30mins.
111.5/10 = 11.15 miles in 3 minutes.
111.5 - 11.15 = 100.35 miles in 27minutes.
A lot easier to break it up into chunks when you don't have a calculator.
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By the end of May, but due to my GP being on summer holiday there have been some extra delays. Not sure if anyone else passed that day though and if so how they've gotten along with their medicals etc.
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Opposite conflict
I would like very much if anyone can take me out this doubt:
In the SDM test, if I am remembering well, spotting an opposite conflict implies three conditions:
1 - the two air planes must have opposite routes, for example: a first airplane should go from point A to point B and a second airplane should go from a point B to a point A and their strips shouldn't have been removed from any location.
2 - In respect to the temporal distance, I think that the time (between the first airplane in city A and the second airplane in city B) and the time (between the second airplane in city A and the first airplane in city B) should be less than 4 minutes. These two times should be less than 4 minutes.
3 - In respect to the altitudes, the distance (between the altitude of the first airplane over city A and the altitude of the second airplane over city B) and the distance (between the altitude of the second airplane over city A and the altitude of the first airplane over city B)should be less than 30 flight units. These two distances should be less than 30 flight units.
My doubts are the following:
In respect to the temporal distance isn't it necessary to consider the time (between the first airplane in A and the second airplane also in A) and the time (between the first airplane in B and the second airplane also in B)? These two times aren't necessary??
In respect to the vertical distances isn't it necessary to consider the distance (between the first airplane in A and the second airplane also in A) and the distance (between the first airplane in B and the second airplane also in B)? These two distances aren't necessary??
Finally the conditions 2 and 3 are both necessay to be considered an opposite conflict or just one of them is enough for the spotting??
I'm looking forward for an answer from you.
Thanks
In the SDM test, if I am remembering well, spotting an opposite conflict implies three conditions:
1 - the two air planes must have opposite routes, for example: a first airplane should go from point A to point B and a second airplane should go from a point B to a point A and their strips shouldn't have been removed from any location.
2 - In respect to the temporal distance, I think that the time (between the first airplane in city A and the second airplane in city B) and the time (between the second airplane in city A and the first airplane in city B) should be less than 4 minutes. These two times should be less than 4 minutes.
3 - In respect to the altitudes, the distance (between the altitude of the first airplane over city A and the altitude of the second airplane over city B) and the distance (between the altitude of the second airplane over city A and the altitude of the first airplane over city B)should be less than 30 flight units. These two distances should be less than 30 flight units.
My doubts are the following:
In respect to the temporal distance isn't it necessary to consider the time (between the first airplane in A and the second airplane also in A) and the time (between the first airplane in B and the second airplane also in B)? These two times aren't necessary??
In respect to the vertical distances isn't it necessary to consider the distance (between the first airplane in A and the second airplane also in A) and the distance (between the first airplane in B and the second airplane also in B)? These two distances aren't necessary??
Finally the conditions 2 and 3 are both necessay to be considered an opposite conflict or just one of them is enough for the spotting??
I'm looking forward for an answer from you.
Thanks
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Oh so did you book your medical yet? I've passed 10 mnths ago, whilst I knew I'd be waiting long, I find it unfair and a bit unprofessional that there is no communication from HR, despite emailing, phoning(only get through to voice mail) you get nothing from them, I'd be fine with just 'Hi we're working on it'. Anyway, did you have it written it takes 1 and a half years to be posted or you assumed from their situation that that would be the case? Thanks.
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I would like very much if you can take me out a doubt:
If I'm remembering well in the SDM, spotting an opposite conflict implies three checkings:
1 - The two airplanes must fly in opposite directions and their strips must not be removed yet. For example, a first airplane flies from A to B and a second airplane flies from B to A.
2 - In respect to the time distances, the time (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane in point B) and the time (between the 2nd airplane in point A and the 1st airplane in point B) should be less than 4 minutes. These two times should be less than four minutes.
3 - In respect to the vertical distances, the distance (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane in point B) and the distance (between the 2nd airplane in point A and the 1st airplane in point B) should be less than 30 flight units. These two distances should be less than 30 flight units.
My doubts are the following:
1 - In the time distances condition (2nd condition), the time (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane also in point A) and the time (between the 1st airplane in point B and the 2nd airplane also in point B) shouldn't be taken into account? Aren't they relevant?
2 - In the vertical distances condition (3rd condition), the distance (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane also in point A) and the distance (between the 1st airplane in point B and the 2nd airplane also in point B) shouldn't be taken into account? Aren't they relevant?
3 - Finally, are the 2nd and the 3rd conditions necessary to consider an opposite conflict or one of them is enough to spot it?
I'm looking forward for an answer from you and I would like it very much.
Thanks
If I'm remembering well in the SDM, spotting an opposite conflict implies three checkings:
1 - The two airplanes must fly in opposite directions and their strips must not be removed yet. For example, a first airplane flies from A to B and a second airplane flies from B to A.
2 - In respect to the time distances, the time (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane in point B) and the time (between the 2nd airplane in point A and the 1st airplane in point B) should be less than 4 minutes. These two times should be less than four minutes.
3 - In respect to the vertical distances, the distance (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane in point B) and the distance (between the 2nd airplane in point A and the 1st airplane in point B) should be less than 30 flight units. These two distances should be less than 30 flight units.
My doubts are the following:
1 - In the time distances condition (2nd condition), the time (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane also in point A) and the time (between the 1st airplane in point B and the 2nd airplane also in point B) shouldn't be taken into account? Aren't they relevant?
2 - In the vertical distances condition (3rd condition), the distance (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane also in point A) and the distance (between the 1st airplane in point B and the 2nd airplane also in point B) shouldn't be taken into account? Aren't they relevant?
3 - Finally, are the 2nd and the 3rd conditions necessary to consider an opposite conflict or one of them is enough to spot it?
I'm looking forward for an answer from you and I would like it very much.
Thanks
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It's not booked but hopefully I can book it in the next few days as my medical details should reach HR today.
They told me at my stage 3 it would most likely be 14 to 16 months of waiting for a course allocation, I don't like it but what options do we have...
They told me at my stage 3 it would most likely be 14 to 16 months of waiting for a course allocation, I don't like it but what options do we have...
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Yeah, I try to look at it that way. I was told towards the end of 2011, well it is fast approaching and I just have no info, but I guess they still have to give me the resignation period from my job time. Book it as soon as you can, it's quite nice to get it out of the way 
Good luck.
Good luck.
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A FEW QUESTIONS...
Hi Guys
Im new to PPRuNe.... and i have some questions i hope some of you can help with...
I am currently studying the NATS initial test stage booklet and i will apply online for a trainee ATCO position when they re-open the recruitment. However, i would like to know what the 'online application' entails.
Please can you help!
Thanks!
Im new to PPRuNe.... and i have some questions i hope some of you can help with...
I am currently studying the NATS initial test stage booklet and i will apply online for a trainee ATCO position when they re-open the recruitment. However, i would like to know what the 'online application' entails.
Please can you help!
Thanks!
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Hey there ATCO wannab,
I am currently 17 and am planning to apply for a ATCO position when I turn 18.
I would also like to know what the online application entails.
My main concern is regarding my eyesight, I currently have a prescription of
-2.25 at this age will the NATS reject me on these grounds, even though I would be within the range of the allowed prescriptions. Could they reject me on grounds that it could successively get worse. As I understand you have a medical at the end of the stage 3. So I would like to have a defintive answer now, So I can decide whether it would be worthwhile to apply.
Thank You,
18YOATC
I am currently 17 and am planning to apply for a ATCO position when I turn 18.
I would also like to know what the online application entails.
My main concern is regarding my eyesight, I currently have a prescription of
-2.25 at this age will the NATS reject me on these grounds, even though I would be within the range of the allowed prescriptions. Could they reject me on grounds that it could successively get worse. As I understand you have a medical at the end of the stage 3. So I would like to have a defintive answer now, So I can decide whether it would be worthwhile to apply.
Thank You,
18YOATC
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There's a box somewhere on the initial application form where you enter any prescriptions for contact lenses/glasses if you wear them.
As I wear contacts, I entered my prescription and received an e-mail with "your application has been forwarded to our medical team" or something along those lines.
Took that from NATS website (Eligability - NATS Air Traffic Controllers Careers), might be worth asking your optician if you meet the requirement.
As I wear contacts, I entered my prescription and received an e-mail with "your application has been forwarded to our medical team" or something along those lines.
You must have normal colour vision and your visual acuity must be 6/9 or better in each eye. This visual acuity can be achieved using correction but there are limits on the amount of correction required.
Correction shall not exceed + 5 or - 6 dioptres equivalent spherical error in each eye. Cylindrical correction shall not exceed 2 dioptres in each eye. The difference between the amount of correction required for each eye shall not exceed 2 dioptres.
If you have had any form of eye surgery including squint correction or laser visual correction, then please be aware of the following:
Even if the pre-operative correction is within the acceptable range, applicants will be referred to a specialist appointed by the CAA for further examination.
However, if the pre-operative correction is outside of the CAA limits of + 5 or - 6 dioptres, then a Class 1 certificate will not be granted even if the post-operative correction is normal.
Correction shall not exceed + 5 or - 6 dioptres equivalent spherical error in each eye. Cylindrical correction shall not exceed 2 dioptres in each eye. The difference between the amount of correction required for each eye shall not exceed 2 dioptres.
If you have had any form of eye surgery including squint correction or laser visual correction, then please be aware of the following:
Even if the pre-operative correction is within the acceptable range, applicants will be referred to a specialist appointed by the CAA for further examination.
However, if the pre-operative correction is outside of the CAA limits of + 5 or - 6 dioptres, then a Class 1 certificate will not be granted even if the post-operative correction is normal.
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Hey Simon,
Thanks for that, I had read it, After asking my optician I found out my Prescription has jumped within the last two years to -3.75. From what I see I would still be within the range. I asked my optician and she said, yes although she didn't look to deep into it.
I was just curious to hear whether anyone had been rejected even though they had been within the allowed prescription range.
Cheers,
18YOATC
Thanks for that, I had read it, After asking my optician I found out my Prescription has jumped within the last two years to -3.75. From what I see I would still be within the range. I asked my optician and she said, yes although she didn't look to deep into it.
I was just curious to hear whether anyone had been rejected even though they had been within the allowed prescription range.
Cheers,
18YOATC
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Anyone that kows how to resolve this problem mentally?. It's easy to do it if you do it writen with a linear equation but doing that is not feasible since it takes too long...
A six passenger plan cruises at 180mph in calm air. If the plane flies 7 miles with the wind in the same amount of time as it flies 5 miles against the wind, then what is the wind speed?.
The solution is apparently 30mph...
A six passenger plan cruises at 180mph in calm air. If the plane flies 7 miles with the wind in the same amount of time as it flies 5 miles against the wind, then what is the wind speed?.
The solution is apparently 30mph...
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Make it simple.
You have two dst-calculations. One with distance 7 miles and speed 160 mph that is not corrected for wind. One with distance 5 miles that is corrected for wind.
Solve them (time is equal in both of them), correct to get the speed of wind instead of the plane and voila.
I can write the entire solution if you want to, but I don't think you need it if you just approach it again knowing it's only two simple equations that need solving.
You have two dst-calculations. One with distance 7 miles and speed 160 mph that is not corrected for wind. One with distance 5 miles that is corrected for wind.
Solve them (time is equal in both of them), correct to get the speed of wind instead of the plane and voila.
I can write the entire solution if you want to, but I don't think you need it if you just approach it again knowing it's only two simple equations that need solving.