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Stage 2
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I did Stage 2 on the 9th of April and just got an email asking me to fill in a questionnaire too. Does this mean we passed Stage 2 but may still fail on the questionnaire? I wish they would explicitly say whether we passed the computer tests or not in the email.
I did Stage 2 on the 9th of April and just got an email asking me to fill in a questionnaire too. Does this mean we passed Stage 2 but may still fail on the questionnaire? I wish they would explicitly say whether we passed the computer tests or not in the email.
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Congrats to passing stage 2 as well. I think it means that we have passed stage 2. Last year they did this to me at stage 1, asking me to fill out a questionnaire. It does say its a work based questionnaire so they maybe asking for background info into what you work like, what you do and maybe this compiles a better "image" of you for stage 3. Whether they need it for your stage 3 or it will be taken into consideration after stage 3 before you get your results i dont know.
Im taking it as ive passed stage 2 as the email does say, please fill this out then you will be given info on booking the next stage.
Thanks Q503 !!!
Im taking it as ive passed stage 2 as the email does say, please fill this out then you will be given info on booking the next stage.
Thanks Q503 !!!
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@ Jimmy
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Think about each question when you are doing the questionnaire man, you can't go back to change your answers. I tried to answer each question honestly but sometimes I worried I wasn't being consistent enough. It worries me because one girl on here said she failed the personality test after Stage 1 last year. Oh well, I'll have to wait and see I suppose.
Think about each question when you are doing the questionnaire man, you can't go back to change your answers. I tried to answer each question honestly but sometimes I worried I wasn't being consistent enough. It worries me because one girl on here said she failed the personality test after Stage 1 last year. Oh well, I'll have to wait and see I suppose.
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Thanks for the heads up, ill do it when i get in from work tonight. It sounds like the one i took after stage 1 last year as this years one was different. Im guessing its the questions like which 2 statements are most like you out of a possible 4 ??? Coz i hate that !!!!
If it is the same as that then consistency is not too much of an issue, the best way is to answer honestly, if you try and answer how you think they want you to answer, thats is where you will come unstuck.
Im sure you will be fine, good luck with it and hopefully see you at stage 3 !!!
If it is the same as that then consistency is not too much of an issue, the best way is to answer honestly, if you try and answer how you think they want you to answer, thats is where you will come unstuck.
Im sure you will be fine, good luck with it and hopefully see you at stage 3 !!!
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That's exactly what it is. 104 of those questions. My worries about consistency were not a matter of how honest I was but in some of the questions I agreed with all or none of the statements. Sometimes the statements were the same as in previous questions but worded differently, or were in a different list of options so the statement that I agreed with most previous time was not the one I agreed with most this time (if you get me).
Also with so many questions I actually felt a little differently closer to the end than at the beginning so my answers may have been skewed slightly too. I think these tests would be much more accurate if they had someone observe us completing exercises for a day (like in Stage 2) and then fill it in for us. There would be no alterior motive then and the answers would much likely be clearer.
If I were to wash out on the basis of a sneakily worded and confusing personality test I would be extremely disappointed! Hopefully that's not the case though and I will see you in Stage 3...
That's exactly what it is. 104 of those questions. My worries about consistency were not a matter of how honest I was but in some of the questions I agreed with all or none of the statements. Sometimes the statements were the same as in previous questions but worded differently, or were in a different list of options so the statement that I agreed with most previous time was not the one I agreed with most this time (if you get me).
Also with so many questions I actually felt a little differently closer to the end than at the beginning so my answers may have been skewed slightly too. I think these tests would be much more accurate if they had someone observe us completing exercises for a day (like in Stage 2) and then fill it in for us. There would be no alterior motive then and the answers would much likely be clearer.
If I were to wash out on the basis of a sneakily worded and confusing personality test I would be extremely disappointed! Hopefully that's not the case though and I will see you in Stage 3...
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Manipulating Equations
Hi ya Q503,
You have to manipulate the equation slightly to simplify things further.
You have three options:
Option1 is (14 / 15 ) * 60
Option 2 is 14 *( 60 / 15 )
Option3 is (14*60) / 15
I would prefer option 2 to others, because 60 divide by 15 is 4 and multiplying it by 14 equals 56 minutes.
However, you don’t really have to work out 14/15 completely before using the result to multiply 60. you can work in fractions. That’s why it’s always a good idea to write out the equation in full.
So, if you encounter a fraction in your question, think of what you want to do with the result. In most cases, if it is not your final answer, you might be using it to multiply or divide another number. By bringing that number into the equation will perhaps simplify things. In as much as you want to be quick in your calculation, you also need to be accurate.
Take a look at this question for example:
(1) A packet of 20 sweeties cost 6.98 US Dollars. How much would 2 sweeties cost ?.
Solution: (6.98 ٪ 20)* 2 = 0.698 US Dollar.
Look at this now, if you decide to divide 6.98 by 20 in a bid to multiply the result by 2 , it will take you longer time to calculate than if
You divide 20 by 2 = 10 and then divide 6.98 by 10 = 0.698. U C wot I mean ?
0.698 US Dollar = 0.698 * 100 = 69.8 or 70 cents
Also take note of this: To divide a number by a fraction is equal to multiply that number by the inverse of the fraction.
For example.
(2) At what speed would My private jet cover 240 miles in 90 minutes ?
Solution : speed = distance / time
(240 * 2/3) = 160 mph is the same as 240 divide by 3/2 = 160 mph
So it’s good to rearrange equations for easy manipulations.
If you have done transfers functions, laplace transform or fourier analysis, you will know what I mean.
Cheers. I know, a lengthy note eh ?
Kingsley
You have to manipulate the equation slightly to simplify things further.
You have three options:
Option1 is (14 / 15 ) * 60
Option 2 is 14 *( 60 / 15 )
Option3 is (14*60) / 15
I would prefer option 2 to others, because 60 divide by 15 is 4 and multiplying it by 14 equals 56 minutes.
However, you don’t really have to work out 14/15 completely before using the result to multiply 60. you can work in fractions. That’s why it’s always a good idea to write out the equation in full.
So, if you encounter a fraction in your question, think of what you want to do with the result. In most cases, if it is not your final answer, you might be using it to multiply or divide another number. By bringing that number into the equation will perhaps simplify things. In as much as you want to be quick in your calculation, you also need to be accurate.
Take a look at this question for example:
(1) A packet of 20 sweeties cost 6.98 US Dollars. How much would 2 sweeties cost ?.
Solution: (6.98 ٪ 20)* 2 = 0.698 US Dollar.
Look at this now, if you decide to divide 6.98 by 20 in a bid to multiply the result by 2 , it will take you longer time to calculate than if
You divide 20 by 2 = 10 and then divide 6.98 by 10 = 0.698. U C wot I mean ?
0.698 US Dollar = 0.698 * 100 = 69.8 or 70 cents
Also take note of this: To divide a number by a fraction is equal to multiply that number by the inverse of the fraction.
For example.
(2) At what speed would My private jet cover 240 miles in 90 minutes ?
Solution : speed = distance / time
(240 * 2/3) = 160 mph is the same as 240 divide by 3/2 = 160 mph
So it’s good to rearrange equations for easy manipulations.
If you have done transfers functions, laplace transform or fourier analysis, you will know what I mean.
Cheers. I know, a lengthy note eh ?
Kingsley
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Does anyone know Nikki's email address?
She had it on the board when I was at stage two last week but I've lost the notepad I wrote it in. I need to get in touch with her about that day.
If so, don't post it, but I'd appreciate it if you could please PM it to me.
Thanks in advance.
She had it on the board when I was at stage two last week but I've lost the notepad I wrote it in. I need to get in touch with her about that day.
If so, don't post it, but I'd appreciate it if you could please PM it to me.
Thanks in advance.
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hi all
im about to apply for a 3rd and final time - bit annoyed to hear the personality questionaire now comes after stage 2. i failed on this first time round having not realised i could actually pass/fail on it.
why do Nats keep changing the process?? surely it would be more fair if you sit all the online tests FIRST before they invite you to fork out your hard earned cash to come and sit their fancy tests down in fareham.
I have a question for anyone who has sat stage 1 recently - are all the tests still multiple choice? including the s/d/t paper?
cheers
im about to apply for a 3rd and final time - bit annoyed to hear the personality questionaire now comes after stage 2. i failed on this first time round having not realised i could actually pass/fail on it.
why do Nats keep changing the process?? surely it would be more fair if you sit all the online tests FIRST before they invite you to fork out your hard earned cash to come and sit their fancy tests down in fareham.
I have a question for anyone who has sat stage 1 recently - are all the tests still multiple choice? including the s/d/t paper?
cheers
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Yes, everything is multiple choice at stage 1. There is a personality test after stage 1 and stage 2 so prepare for them. I'm worried I might not have been consistent enough.
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So then got my stage 3 tomorrow. Quite nervous actually and I've been quite calm for the first 2, I hope it doesn't show through. I've done about as much preparation as I can so at the end of the day I either have what they are looking for or not. It's all in the lap of the gods now.
Anyway good luck to anyone else going for theirs tomorrow.
Anyway good luck to anyone else going for theirs tomorrow.
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selection tests
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just have to say, excellent posts.... you have really regenerated my mind on the different processes , feeling pretty confident now ahead of my test a week tomorrow, thanks again mate - spot on
just have to say, excellent posts.... you have really regenerated my mind on the different processes , feeling pretty confident now ahead of my test a week tomorrow, thanks again mate - spot on
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Question for those who completed stage 1 etc, got invited to do the questionnaire today, does this mean I passed stage 1 it doesn't explicitly say this but does mention about getting in contact about future stages?
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I was given that questionnaire as well and i passed stage 1, so i would take it that you have passed as well. It is a bit vague but congraatulations. That questionnaire isnt too bad just fill it out honestly and you will be fine. Good luck with stage 2 !!!
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Aye, I filled the questionnaire in, just still a bit weird the e-mail because I never actually got an e-mail saying directly that I passed stage 1, maybe I didn't or maybe I just don't get it explicitly directly, always a bit worry about interpreting something wrong, guess I'll see.
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Swanick Visit - Thurs 29th?
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Is anyone else on here visiting Swanick next Thursday? I'm going along for 1pm and apparently another Stage 3 candidate is there at the same time.
Is anyone else on here visiting Swanick next Thursday? I'm going along for 1pm and apparently another Stage 3 candidate is there at the same time.
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Validation
Hi there,
I am just about to go through the process and have done a lot of reading up, both on the forum and from other sources. I think I have a pretty good understanding of the recruitment process, and to an extent about the college.
What I am trying to understand is what exactly is involved when validating? Is it a set of modules and test like the college, or is it more constant observation? How is it/Who is it that deems you to be 'Valid' on a unit. And finally, how long does this take. I know the NATS carreers website says it takes about 3 years to be an ATCO, is that from college start to Valid contoller, or just the validation bit?
Cheers
A15
I am just about to go through the process and have done a lot of reading up, both on the forum and from other sources. I think I have a pretty good understanding of the recruitment process, and to an extent about the college.
What I am trying to understand is what exactly is involved when validating? Is it a set of modules and test like the college, or is it more constant observation? How is it/Who is it that deems you to be 'Valid' on a unit. And finally, how long does this take. I know the NATS carreers website says it takes about 3 years to be an ATCO, is that from college start to Valid contoller, or just the validation bit?
Cheers
A15