PPL and ATCO Training?

[Roni f]

reading material hint

Thanks Gonzo, looks like it'll make some light bed-time reading! 430 pages, slightly hefty! Lets get cracking then!

Si

si and quincy
mats 1 is a large document i would advise you to stick with section 1 this is an atc overview and will form most of your assesment at the college in basic course and then area foundation be aware for area foundation you must know this ver batum so the more you can get in just now the better Remember concentrate on section 1 dont worry about the rest and if you are really kean read section 5 emergencies

good luck guys
Roni

[tired-flyboy]

Thought at the college the official line was that you didn't need to know anything ver batim.

Its just that the instructors 'seem' to only mark the exams (fully) if you have quoted chapter and verse.

anyways i thought that the intro (or basic) was all multiple guess nowadays?

Its only when you move onto the area side of the house that the quesitons become full written answers....and i believe that this is to change (well it was muted about when my course was there!)

But i do agree with Roni F look at section 1 and if you can have a look at the the airspace section in particular (dif classes, vis requirements etc) these changed recently (ie Class C is now in the UK).

But in all relax (or at least try to) and enjoy yourself!

TFB

[Quincy M.E.]

Roni and Tired-f

Thanks for the advice, it will be taken! Also concentrating on section 1 will mean that I wont tie up the printer at work for so long!

[tired-flyboy]

Ah don't worry about the printer - you get your own copy of MATS pt 1

you get to keep it and update it.....oh it'll become like a well known credit card - you won't leave home without it!

well at least for the first month or so!!! (so SAD i know but its true!)

TFB

[Quincy M.E.]

Originally Posted by Roni f

quick piece of advice start reading the MATS part 1 and the ANO rules section asap will give you a sound knowledge base for the basic course exams.

cheers Roni

I was just going to do some pre start swatting. (is that sadder?)

[simoncooldude]

Roni and Tired. Thanks very much for the advice, it definately seems more manageable now to have it in a chunk!

Was hoping that you get your own MATS.... saw the cost of £60 from the stationery office, worried that i'd buy it and then get my own afterwards! I'll just keep it in good old .pdf for now me thinks!

Thanks for the insight into it all which has kind of made me stop panicking about everything (what will happen at college, how much will we need to know, will I have to remember it word for word). Your definately helping

Si

[Roni f]

mats purchase?

tired -

the basic is now fully multiple choice, well apart from Human factors case study but i wouldnt be to worried abot that guys. you are also quite right there is a move in the college to have understanding of the material rather than to be a parrot however as it stands there is still a need for chapter and verse on the area foundation.

should have said guys dont by mats keep it on PDF for the mo you will be issued with one when you get to the college as well as an ANO.

sure you wil all be fine and i back up tirdes comments make sure you enjoy youselves when you get here you are lucky enough to do one of the best jobs out there

cheers Roni

[simoncooldude]

Thanks for your continuing helps guys, it's much appreciated! Just a quick question. I am tempted to buy a laptop at the moment, partly for the ATC course and partly for personal use. Does anyone know if the college permits the use of laptops and if so, do you recommend using one for note taking etc. Are there many notes that need to be taken in class? I'm fine with the old pen and paper method, but just wondering about the laptop way!

Thanks again guys,

Si

[tired-flyboy]

Daft as it sounds there is something to do with COPYRIGHT and recording etc lessons.

Somebody on my course wanted to use a dictaphone and was told the above. they were advised to ask each individual lecturer for thier permission.

But don't worry there are PLENTY of handouts for the course, note taking is only to amplify the points of the lectures.

[simoncooldude]

Originally Posted by tired-flyboy

Daft as it sounds there is something to do with COPYRIGHT and recording etc lessons.
Somebody on my course wanted to use a dictaphone and was told the above. they were advised to ask each individual lecturer for thier permission.
But don't worry there are PLENTY of handouts for the course, note taking is only to amplify the points of the lectures.

Ahh, I wasn't planning on using it for recording, just for taking notes! Quite a good idea though, but very strange about the copyright! What do you think about the notetaking idea? Worthwhile or not? Cheers!

Si

[Number2]

I think when you'll get there, you'll quickly realise when you need to make a note of something. There are so many papers listing previous exam questions etc going around as well. If you pull out a laptop, you may well get laughed at!

[tired-flyboy]

If its only for note taking then its really not worth it. Unless you can type 80+ wpm.

notes are normally made using the handouts (as they are done on powerpoint - they print them off in handout format with note space at the side).

As number 2 says you may get laughed at.

[simoncooldude]

Hahah I'll avoid that at all costs then! Thanks for the advice as always!

Si

[Roni f]

Does anyone know if the college permits the use of laptops and if so, do you recommend using one for note taking etc. Are there many notes that need to be taken in class?

hi si

the use of lap tops was brought up by the 207 course as there were a number of them about, we were given the opportunity to trial run the use of them in class to see how we found it. in the event i dont think any were used as you receive ample paper work to keep you happy the only notes you need are one liners.

one thing i would say is that it can be helpful for further research at home if you are keen, there are a number of wirless connections in the westby road area which will give you internet access.

hope this helps cheers Roni

[Quincy M.E.]

Originally Posted by Roni f

, there are a number of wirless connections in the westby road area which will give you internet access.

hope this helps cheers Roni

Do you mean unprotected wireless connections?

[tired-flyboy]

A word of caution, using someone else's wireless network can be seen as fraudulant.

There is a thread about it on the computer/internet forum and search for it could enlighten you as to the ways of british computer misuse act

See here for previous discussion

You have been warned! good luck

[Quincy M.E.]

Roger that. I was not endorsing the practice.

[tired-flyboy]

Quince

Didn't think so, just thought i'd mention a point i remember reading about ages ago.

God i hate days off, i'm bored!!!!

[Quincy M.E.]

Im the opposite: I love days off as I am bored when I am at work! Luckily my boss can't see me wasting time on pprune all day.

Still, only 3 and a bit months till I set off for Hurn!

[Messi]

I would never endorse the use of other peoples unprotected wireless connections. At the same time, however, if someone is daft enough to not protect their connection, they aren't likely to catch you!

Sorry 'bout that, just thinking out loud. I should prob stop doing that...