PPL and ATCO Training?
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From: Ayr
quick caviat to the lad quearing the flying time offered by nats
there is a 2 week BA course at the end of your 9 months at college where you will have the chance to take a couple of fan flights around europe, not easy to get in this day and age.
sure i will see you at the college
quick piece of advice start reading the MATS part 1 and the ANO rules section asap will give you a sound knowledge base for the basic course exams.
cheers Roni
there is a 2 week BA course at the end of your 9 months at college where you will have the chance to take a couple of fan flights around europe, not easy to get in this day and age.
sure i will see you at the college
quick piece of advice start reading the MATS part 1 and the ANO rules section asap will give you a sound knowledge base for the basic course exams.
cheers Roni
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From: LGW
Originally Posted by Roni f
quick caviat to the lad quearing the flying time offered by nats
there is a 2 week BA course at the end of your 9 months at college where you will have the chance to take a couple of fan flights around europe, not easy to get in this day and age.
there is a 2 week BA course at the end of your 9 months at college where you will have the chance to take a couple of fan flights around europe, not easy to get in this day and age.
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From: LHR/EGLL
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From: Around
Originally Posted by WexCan
Seems if I do get in I'd prob have to go the area route -website says you need to be 20 to get a radar license, so for me that would allow me to start early 2007 and finish when I'm 20.
Wonder how that works.
Wonder how that works.
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From: LGW
April 2 2008 (Yeah poor little young me.)
Originally Posted by NATS FAQ
We are looking to recruit people for courses starting March, June, September and December each year. There is a slight problem with those candidates who are aged 18, as they have to be 20 in order to hold a radar licence, whilst we will, off course, let you go through selection, if you are successful you will be issued with a course date that ensures you are the correct age on graduation.
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Of course Aerodrome seems a lot more appealing - as Simon said you get to see the aircraft you're controlling. But NATS stream about 80% of their intake down the Area route so I hear.
Personally I love area, especially TC. I was flying online just a short while ago and I think the Area controllers have a fun job, giving climb/descent/vector etc instructions. I think I like it because it's very varied and there seems to be an big element of creativity in it. I flew a BIG3B into LL but ended up being directed elsewhere due to me being to high, then orbited round to fly a long downwind due to other traffic coming in which was scheduled for arrival before me. Coming from a design background I love it, it's so creative.
Area is cool.
Kirk
Personally I love area, especially TC. I was flying online just a short while ago and I think the Area controllers have a fun job, giving climb/descent/vector etc instructions. I think I like it because it's very varied and there seems to be an big element of creativity in it. I flew a BIG3B into LL but ended up being directed elsewhere due to me being to high, then orbited round to fly a long downwind due to other traffic coming in which was scheduled for arrival before me. Coming from a design background I love it, it's so creative.
Area is cool.
Kirk
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Originally Posted by Kirk Biddlecombe
But area is surely similar? (In the sense that the job is to vector/climb/descend... aircraft no?)
If I make area sound like more of a blunt art than approach, well don't let me mislead you. Whilst approach radar requires more finesse and precision, area is the harder discipline to master, and has it's own particular rewards.
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TC Area
Hi guys
If and when you pass at the college there are two routes that an area controller can go.
One is the one described by Rodan, En-route control which is at LACC (Swanwick!).
The second (and my personal favourite) is the departures task done by area controllers at TC (West Drayton).
As an area controller at TC we do the same job as the Approach guys except we take the planes the moment they are released from Tower and vector, speed and climb them till they get to a point where we can hand them off to the en-route guys who will eventually take them out of the UK airspace. As well as doing this we also control (at the same time) aircraft arriving into TC airspace and vector them to the nominated holds for the london airports. (descend them in the hold and then hand them off to the approach guys.
If it gets too busy we split the sector and deal with either departures or arrivals.
Hope that adds to your understanding of Area.
TFB
If and when you pass at the college there are two routes that an area controller can go.
One is the one described by Rodan, En-route control which is at LACC (Swanwick!).
The second (and my personal favourite) is the departures task done by area controllers at TC (West Drayton).
As an area controller at TC we do the same job as the Approach guys except we take the planes the moment they are released from Tower and vector, speed and climb them till they get to a point where we can hand them off to the en-route guys who will eventually take them out of the UK airspace. As well as doing this we also control (at the same time) aircraft arriving into TC airspace and vector them to the nominated holds for the london airports. (descend them in the hold and then hand them off to the approach guys.
If it gets too busy we split the sector and deal with either departures or arrivals.
Hope that adds to your understanding of Area.
TFB
