Question for london controllers
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Europe
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Question for london controllers
Dear collegues,
I was just wondering. When I am flying in the London area and receive a hand-over to another controller and checkin in. I usually say:
"good morning london, Callsign XXX , FLXXX climbing FLXXX heading XXX"
I know that according to the "book" we shall only state our cleared level unless we have just been handed off to the first departure frequency after takeoff, when we also shall state our crossing level and SID.
So my question for you controllers is? When we check in to your frequencys, do you want to hear our passing level our do you want us to omit this and only state our cleared level?
Thank you. Best regards, EightsOnPylons
I was just wondering. When I am flying in the London area and receive a hand-over to another controller and checkin in. I usually say:
"good morning london, Callsign XXX , FLXXX climbing FLXXX heading XXX"
I know that according to the "book" we shall only state our cleared level unless we have just been handed off to the first departure frequency after takeoff, when we also shall state our crossing level and SID.
So my question for you controllers is? When we check in to your frequencys, do you want to hear our passing level our do you want us to omit this and only state our cleared level?
Thank you. Best regards, EightsOnPylons
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: solent-on-sea
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Am a London controller...
As far as I can see, if you're coming from another radar controller to me (ie anything but departures straight from the tower or some other non standard situation of someone's radar not working) your mode C is presumed validated so I don't care about 'passing'. I'd just like "Callsign, descending FL XXX, heading ABC".
To try and avoid stepping on other threads, 'good morning' etc is fine presuming I'm not doing the proverbial one armed paper hangar routine.
As far as I can see, if you're coming from another radar controller to me (ie anything but departures straight from the tower or some other non standard situation of someone's radar not working) your mode C is presumed validated so I don't care about 'passing'. I'd just like "Callsign, descending FL XXX, heading ABC".
To try and avoid stepping on other threads, 'good morning' etc is fine presuming I'm not doing the proverbial one armed paper hangar routine.
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Mike Jenvey
That's from the UK AIP, surely doesn't really give pilots scope to do otherwise??
However, do you read the sentence as relevant on any frequency change within LATCC, or just on initial handover from London/Scottish/Manchester??
If you look at it as changing frequency between any of the London Control Centres (sectors??) then it makes more sense - maybe!
However, do you read the sentence as relevant on any frequency change within LATCC, or just on initial handover from London/Scottish/Manchester??
If you look at it as changing frequency between any of the London Control Centres (sectors??) then it makes more sense - maybe!
