Training Captain Pay versus ATCO OJTI
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Training Captain Pay versus ATCO OJTI
Does anyone one know approximately how much extra training captains get paid in relation to a standard captain(no offence meant)? With the continued pressure to train ATCO's during higher and higher traffic levels, i was wondering if our renumeration was on a similiar scale?
Just found some easyjet stats
Training Captains\' Pay
Line Training Captains £75,305 (12.5% on basic salary)
Type Rating Instructors £76,979 (15% on basic salary)
Type Rating Examiners £78,652 (17.5% on basic salary)
Airborne Base Instructors £80,326 (20% on basic salary)
Just found some easyjet stats
Training Captains\' Pay
Line Training Captains £75,305 (12.5% on basic salary)
Type Rating Instructors £76,979 (15% on basic salary)
Type Rating Examiners £78,652 (17.5% on basic salary)
Airborne Base Instructors £80,326 (20% on basic salary)
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In NATS (UK) we get an extra spine point on the pay scale (approx 3%) and then if we meet the required targets for training unit based over 3 months we then get a bonus of something like 1% basic (average after tax £250).
Basically it doesn't compare to pilot training pay at all.
Basically it doesn't compare to pilot training pay at all.
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Mine doesnt compare at all with pilots. About 1.2% above basic. I'm afraid having an OJTI ticket is all but useless when it comes to renumeration. The responsibilty that is attached to it appears to be lost on the bean counters, in my opinion.
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Basically guys, stop training and when they ask why tell them it's not financially worth the hassle.
Only when they aren't able to train will they be forced to address why and do something about it..........
For what it's worth, my company pays Type rated Examiners 20% above basic, Line Training Capt's 10% above basic.
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Only when they aren't able to train will they be forced to address why and do something about it..........
For what it's worth, my company pays Type rated Examiners 20% above basic, Line Training Capt's 10% above basic.
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Vector Line; using the correct word is nothing to do with grammer. It has a lot to do with precision and this is a precision job.
I corrected the use of the wrong word in good humour, and your epithet-laden response is far more unwelcome.
In the words of Billy Connely, YOU F*** OFF!
I corrected the use of the wrong word in good humour, and your epithet-laden response is far more unwelcome.
In the words of Billy Connely, YOU F*** OFF!
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Once you`ve got an OJTI ticket, it can prove a tricky business getting rid of it, or not making use of it when required.
The attitude of one major UK employer historically is that training is part of the atco`s normal task.
The attitude of one major UK employer historically is that training is part of the atco`s normal task.
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An ATCO top of the scale gets an extra 3% for being an OJTI. Perhaps things will improve with the new structure we've been promised, otherwise there could be a lack of OJTI's in the future!!
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Nav Canada pay a flat rate of $8.50 per hour, no matter what level of the pay scale you're on.
After tax, it equates to about a happy meal at McDonalds.
After tax, it equates to about a happy meal at McDonalds.
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Yes, there is a total lack of understanding from management that you are putting your licence on the line and there have been many days when it just ain`t worth the risk, about £1 a day after tax in my case, but..............
If you`re just training someone to get a few extra pennies you`re in the wrong place. I see training as one of the more important parts of the job. It gives us the chance to pass on our experience to the people who within a couple of months will be making all the decisions for themselves.
If you can`t get satisfaction watching a trainee going from a zero hours newbie to a validated controller and on the way picking up something it took you years to learn then don`t bother.
How many of the people complaining about not getting enough cash for training were trained by people getting paid nothing for the pleasure of watching them stumble out of the starting blocks. Always remember where you came from you may be going back some day!
If you`re just training someone to get a few extra pennies you`re in the wrong place. I see training as one of the more important parts of the job. It gives us the chance to pass on our experience to the people who within a couple of months will be making all the decisions for themselves.
If you can`t get satisfaction watching a trainee going from a zero hours newbie to a validated controller and on the way picking up something it took you years to learn then don`t bother.
How many of the people complaining about not getting enough cash for training were trained by people getting paid nothing for the pleasure of watching them stumble out of the starting blocks. Always remember where you came from you may be going back some day!