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atc unit visits
Is it possible to have more than one unit visit?
If so how would I go about arranging another ie. who should i ask for?
Thanks to anybody that can enlighten me.
If so how would I go about arranging another ie. who should i ask for?
Thanks to anybody that can enlighten me.
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I can think of somebody you could ask, but he would probably charge you fro the information
(Seriously, send a PM to smellysnelly2004. Hopefully he still has the contact details)
(Seriously, send a PM to smellysnelly2004. Hopefully he still has the contact details)
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Assuming you are applying to NATS:
Official policy NOW is 1 unit visit, max length 2 hours, booked through HR on the web site. This is to stop multiple visits.
Of course, if you manage to circumvent the system: 10/10 for initiative!
Official policy NOW is 1 unit visit, max length 2 hours, booked through HR on the web site. This is to stop multiple visits.
Of course, if you manage to circumvent the system: 10/10 for initiative!
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Hi xoddsx, try to ignore the valiant flame-warriors.
In reality, it's quite easy to arrange a visit, and I would recommend it. Remember that you don't necessarily have to go to a NATS unit. Going by your location, have you tried Leeds, Doncaster, Humberside, East Mids or Teesside? I don't have the numbers to hand, but you should be able to arrange it by phoning the main airport switchboard and asking to get put through to Air Traffic Control. When you do, ask for the ATC Manager and make your request. Most places are more than happy to help, so don't be bashful.
Good luck!
In reality, it's quite easy to arrange a visit, and I would recommend it. Remember that you don't necessarily have to go to a NATS unit. Going by your location, have you tried Leeds, Doncaster, Humberside, East Mids or Teesside? I don't have the numbers to hand, but you should be able to arrange it by phoning the main airport switchboard and asking to get put through to Air Traffic Control. When you do, ask for the ATC Manager and make your request. Most places are more than happy to help, so don't be bashful.
Good luck!
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Perhaps I'll just clarify my point....
As an ATCO who is involved in NATS' recruitment, both at assessment days and interviews, I would recommend you make as many visits as possible.
As rodan says, if you are applying to NATS then I wouldn't be too bothered if you visited non-NATS units, although I think it's beneficial to see both en-route centres (ie. NATS in the UK) and airfields.
As an ATCO who is involved in NATS' recruitment, both at assessment days and interviews, I would recommend you make as many visits as possible.
As rodan says, if you are applying to NATS then I wouldn't be too bothered if you visited non-NATS units, although I think it's beneficial to see both en-route centres (ie. NATS in the UK) and airfields.
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I'd back up the multiple visits thing. I managed to get to Swanwick, Heathrow Tower & Lands End & all of them were beneficial and helpful. It's not just the visit but the whole gang of ATCO's you can ask for info that really helps too.
As others have said don't overlook the regionals as they're often able to give you more time if it's a quiet spell. Definitely helps to do En-route and airfield as the ATCO who runs your tech interview is likely to specialise in one of these. Although the interview is certain to cover aspects of both it can't hurt to be able to refer to visits for questions you're asked.
Best of luck to you.
As others have said don't overlook the regionals as they're often able to give you more time if it's a quiet spell. Definitely helps to do En-route and airfield as the ATCO who runs your tech interview is likely to specialise in one of these. Although the interview is certain to cover aspects of both it can't hurt to be able to refer to visits for questions you're asked.
Best of luck to you.
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xoddsx
Sorry that you and the English speaking world have been subjected to petty arguing.
Good luck in the application. Not all in our trade are like this. Honest!
Sorry that you and the English speaking world have been subjected to petty arguing.
Good luck in the application. Not all in our trade are like this. Honest!
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xoddsx, please don't be discouraged, we really have the best job in the world. The vast majority of ATCOs would gladly help to arrange a visit to their unit. Contact details can also be found in the UK AIP publication, found at www.ais.org.uk. You do have to register, but it's free. I wish you luck in your application, and perhaps I'll see you soon!
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I do wish that some people would STOP hijacking threads to carry on their childish arguments. As I have said elsewhere, this is supposed to be a forum for PROFESSIONAL people, but there is little evidence of this in the postings from some morons. Why on earth can't you kiddies carry on your arguments privately instead of on PPrune? Nobody minds a joke, but this is getting tediously out of hand.
XODDSX.. I can only offer apologies on behalf of the vast majority of controllers who are mature adults.
XODDSX.. I can only offer apologies on behalf of the vast majority of controllers who are mature adults.
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Well I was at first impressed by the vast amount of knowledge on these forums, but now realise is can be easily spoilt by people who argue between themselves, instead of actually helping.
Anyway, I agree that looking at different ATC units will undoubtedly uncover different aspects and different opinions/advice, so surely it is worth sorting as many visits as possible...
I work at an RAF Unit, and we certainly welcome potential controllers/assistants to the Tower for visits, and are as accommodating and helpful as we can be.
Cheers,
Anyway, I agree that looking at different ATC units will undoubtedly uncover different aspects and different opinions/advice, so surely it is worth sorting as many visits as possible...
I work at an RAF Unit, and we certainly welcome potential controllers/assistants to the Tower for visits, and are as accommodating and helpful as we can be.
Cheers,
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The chaff from this thread should disappear in to the vaults ..... the only topic on this thread is about visits.
If anyone wants to start one on recruitment strategies and the qualities of those involved, coupled with essays on success rates and candidates, then feel free
If anyone wants to start one on recruitment strategies and the qualities of those involved, coupled with essays on success rates and candidates, then feel free
