Use of the term "Charlie Charlie"
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From: Gatwick
Thanks for the replies gents.
The reason I asked is that the Greek ATCO's use the term (on VHF), and consequently I have heard it quite a bit, but recently I heard someone use it in Canada, and the controller admitted to having never heard it before, and asked what does it mean.
Got me wondering as to it's 'correctness'
The reason I asked is that the Greek ATCO's use the term (on VHF), and consequently I have heard it quite a bit, but recently I heard someone use it in Canada, and the controller admitted to having never heard it before, and asked what does it mean.
Got me wondering as to it's 'correctness'
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From: Planet Claire
It's not used in aviation to the best of my knowledge but there exists a range of two letter codes which are used by 'serious' radio operators. 'CC' is 'Roger' or 'Wilco'. Others are 'DE' - 'this is' and the well known 'CQ' which is 'Hello'.
Perhaps a Radio Ham or someone with a better memory could help. These terms are also used by people who need to log spoken RT, as shorthand.
I agree it's use as spoken voice procedure is wrong but it is at least based on something. Probably old ex mil folk are the main culprits, I've heard it a few times.
Quaint
Perhaps a Radio Ham or someone with a better memory could help. These terms are also used by people who need to log spoken RT, as shorthand.
I agree it's use as spoken voice procedure is wrong but it is at least based on something. Probably old ex mil folk are the main culprits, I've heard it a few times.
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From: Berkshire, UK
Oh what joy to hear Radio Amateurs mentioned in the same breath as serious radio operators!
Indeed, many RA spoken codes are derived from "old" CW communications and many of those were thought up by the CW ops themselves, with very little being laid down (similar to the language now being developed by txt users).
One well know "ham" phrase is "Hi", which is di-di-di-dit di-dit on CW and spoken as "aitch eye" or just "Hi". It means "laughter", which is difficult to convey on CW. I once unthinkingly said it to a helicopter pilot on R/T and he fell about - obviously a serious bloke!
Other similar codes include "73", as a sign-off meaning roughly "goodbye" and "88" meaning "love and kisses".
Indeed, many RA spoken codes are derived from "old" CW communications and many of those were thought up by the CW ops themselves, with very little being laid down (similar to the language now being developed by txt users).
One well know "ham" phrase is "Hi", which is di-di-di-dit di-dit on CW and spoken as "aitch eye" or just "Hi". It means "laughter", which is difficult to convey on CW. I once unthinkingly said it to a helicopter pilot on R/T and he fell about - obviously a serious bloke!
Other similar codes include "73", as a sign-off meaning roughly "goodbye" and "88" meaning "love and kisses".
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QSY
I tend to hear Charlie Charlie on HF,as Truckmaster says.
What about the above phrase?
I used to hear QSY when pilots confirmed that they were "two-way" with their next sector.They were cleared to "QSY" en route.
Where does that terminology come from,& is it still used today(don't think I've heard it for some time now).
Thanks...I'll QSY to lunch now...
What about the above phrase?
I used to hear QSY when pilots confirmed that they were "two-way" with their next sector.They were cleared to "QSY" en route.
Where does that terminology come from,& is it still used today(don't think I've heard it for some time now).
Thanks...I'll QSY to lunch now...
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From: Wivenhoe, not too far from the Clacton VOR
From ICAO Doc. 8400/3 ICAO Abbreviations and Codes (which I just happen to have on my person):
QSY - "Change to transmission on another frequency (or on .....Khz/Mhz).
My favourite was always QRM - "I am being interfered with ...." followed by a number from 1 to 5 indicating the degree of interference from nil (story of my life) to extremely (dream on).
I am now QRT.
QSY - "Change to transmission on another frequency (or on .....Khz/Mhz).
My favourite was always QRM - "I am being interfered with ...." followed by a number from 1 to 5 indicating the degree of interference from nil (story of my life) to extremely (dream on).
I am now QRT.
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From: Berkshire, UK
And what's that bizarre phrase the fish-heads use? Something like "Pogo dis"?? Roughly translated it means "if no contact return to this frequency". First time I heard it, from an ex-RN ATCO chum I thought he was pulling something of mine... but I used the phrase to an RN aircraft and he got it first time. Thereafter I used it as standard (don't tell SRG).