Use of the term "Charlie Charlie"
 

Question please guys,

Is the use of the term "Charlie Charlie" on the radio an officially correct phrase to indicate a correct statement?

Thanks in advance.

R.E.

Negative:O
Like me, a relic of bygone days.
Probably comes from "confirm correct" sent as CC on W/T.

You still hear it occasionally on HF especially with countries were ATC has multiple accents or English as the second or non-native tongue

I think it used to be a morse thing, with CC being 'wilco'. Was in general use a couple of decades ago, but I haven't heard it in ages. Not official any more but.

Thanks for the replies gents.

The reason I asked is that the Greek ATCO's use the term (on VHF), and consequently I have heard it quite a bit, but recently I heard someone use it in Canada, and the controller admitted to having never heard it before, and asked what does it mean.

Got me wondering as to it's 'correctness'

Isn't Charlie Charlie related to Roger Dee?

The term originates from marine code flags, with "C" being "yes, affirmative or the significance of the previous code group should be read in the positive".

Oo arrr, mee 'arties!

Used to be our Rallye, based at Denham, years ago!!!

Good old 'Charlie Charlie'

Greetings to all who flew her...

The Odd One

Just to be [slightly] different, Some ["Mature"] pilots reply with "That's Charlie".
watp,iktch

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Used to be our Rallye, based at Denham, years ago!!!

Good old 'Charlie Charlie'

Greetings to all who flew her...
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I remember her well !

...nope, not a relation of mine ;)

Ahh.. Sorry. Must have been a relative of Charlie Park..

It's not used in aviation to the best of my knowledge but there exists a range of two letter codes which are used by 'serious' radio operators. 'CC' is 'Roger' or 'Wilco'. Others are 'DE' - 'this is' and the well known 'CQ' which is 'Hello'.

Perhaps a Radio Ham or someone with a better memory could help. These terms are also used by people who need to log spoken RT, as shorthand.

I agree it's use as spoken voice procedure is wrong but it is at least based on something. Probably old ex mil folk are the main culprits, I've heard it a few times.

Quaint:ok:

Oh what joy to hear Radio Amateurs mentioned in the same breath as serious radio operators!

Indeed, many RA spoken codes are derived from "old" CW communications and many of those were thought up by the CW ops themselves, with very little being laid down (similar to the language now being developed by txt users).

One well know "ham" phrase is "Hi", which is di-di-di-dit di-dit on CW and spoken as "aitch eye" or just "Hi". It means "laughter", which is difficult to convey on CW. I once unthinkingly said it to a helicopter pilot on R/T and he fell about - obviously a serious bloke!

Other similar codes include "73", as a sign-off meaning roughly "goodbye" and "88" meaning "love and kisses".

I use the term on occasion and everyone has understood what I meant. Or they just haven't said that they didn't understand.:}

QSY
 

I tend to hear Charlie Charlie on HF,as Truckmaster says.

What about the above phrase?

I used to hear QSY when pilots confirmed that they were "two-way" with their next sector.They were cleared to "QSY" en route.

Where does that terminology come from,& is it still used today(don't think I've heard it for some time now).

Thanks...I'll QSY to lunch now... :O

"Two-way" is pretty self-explanatory. QSY is one of the standard Q signals, like QNH, QFE, QDM... even QLO!

From ICAO Doc. 8400/3 ICAO Abbreviations and Codes (which I just happen to have on my person):
QSY - "Change to transmission on another frequency (or on .....Khz/Mhz).

My favourite was always QRM - "I am being interfered with ...." followed by a number from 1 to 5 indicating the degree of interference from nil (story of my life) to extremely (dream on).

I am now QRT.

QSY
 

With Military training aircraft, tend to use "Squark 7000, QSY en route, goodbye"="Bugger off!"

And what's that bizarre phrase the fish-heads use? Something like "Pogo dis"?? Roughly translated it means "if no contact return to this frequency". First time I heard it, from an ex-RN ATCO chum I thought he was pulling something of mine... but I used the phrase to an RN aircraft and he got it first time. Thereafter I used it as standard (don't tell SRG).