Air traffic in Norway halted - Oslo ACC to close (Merged)
Moderator
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 1998
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,051
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Air traffic in Norway halted
ATCOs at the Røyken Center have called in sick to protest the proposed close down of their fairly new, built into the mountain, state of the art unit.
The AVINOR agency wants reduce the number of ATC centers from 6 to 4.
All civilian air traffic in the so called 'eastcountry' (including the area of Oslo airport Gardermoen) has been grounded.
If you read Scando, here's a link.
Thoughts going to all the crews & ATCOs having to deal with this today.
The AVINOR agency wants reduce the number of ATC centers from 6 to 4.
All civilian air traffic in the so called 'eastcountry' (including the area of Oslo airport Gardermoen) has been grounded.
If you read Scando, here's a link.
Thoughts going to all the crews & ATCOs having to deal with this today.
Yes, a walk out by ATC staff has led to the suspension of all air traffic in Norway. Our flight FI320 ex KEF was already enroute and has had to divert to BGO (via ATC who advised to divert and contact BGO tower radio) and is waiting there with pax on board for decision whether to terminate the flight there and return empty or if hours permit to wait and continue the flight. Fortunately they had return catering onboard so lunch is being served without too much hassle, the crew were a bit upset about the coffee though.
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: 59°45'36N 10°27'59E
Posts: 1,032
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
a walk out by ATC staff has led to the suspension of all air traffic in Norway
Btw: HOSP/SAR is naturally not affected.
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: 59°45'36N 10°27'59E
Posts: 1,032
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Oslo ATCC to close
Article in English 
(For those of you that are not familiar with our organization, It's like if they shut down Swanwick, and moved it to Manchester.)
Btw: I don't work at ENOS, but wold have liked to!
(For those of you that are not familiar with our organization, It's like if they shut down Swanwick, and moved it to Manchester.)
Btw: I don't work at ENOS, but wold have liked to!
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: South West England
Age: 73
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sounds pretty dire. My sympathy to you guys. I wonder what the Manchester boys and girls reckon, after all they are all going to Scotland soon and that is a lot further than the distance from Swanwick to Manchester.
On that subject what would the reaction be from EGCC staff if they had the option of moving to the south coast. After all Sector 29 only went to Manch because it could not be accommodated at West Drayton. There's plenty of room now but not many decent houses left.
A I
On that subject what would the reaction be from EGCC staff if they had the option of moving to the south coast. After all Sector 29 only went to Manch because it could not be accommodated at West Drayton. There's plenty of room now but not many decent houses left.
A I
I'm Just A Lawnmower
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Over the hills and faraway
Age: 62
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I wonder what the Manchester boys and girls reckon, after all they are all going to Scotland soon and that is a lot further than the distance from Swanwick to Manchester.
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: EU
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A union at its best
If you want to know how a union should work for its members - just follow this conflict. If you are living/working out of the UK, pay close attention. You might pick up a few clues to the benefit of your, shall we say, not so splendid system 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Norway
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi!
Just thought I should put a little post here. First of all I have to say sorry to all our flying collegues and passengers who got affected by what have happened here in Norway.
The reason for this 0-rate in ENOS AOR is bacicly that we take our work and the security serious.
When AVINOR (Norwegian CAA) dropped the "bomb" this morning, all of us working in Røyken (ATCC and APP) got really upset.
Its not easy to hear you have to relocate and all what this brings with it regarding life and family situation.
So because we dont want to control without a "clear head", as also is stated in your guidelines. We did the only correct thing to "close down" the airspace in the intrest of safety for all you pilots and the passengers you carry with you.
So its not been any industrial action, or other form for strike taking part at all.
All that have happened is a very human reaction to a very hard situation.
thx.
FinalVectors
Just thought I should put a little post here. First of all I have to say sorry to all our flying collegues and passengers who got affected by what have happened here in Norway.
The reason for this 0-rate in ENOS AOR is bacicly that we take our work and the security serious.
When AVINOR (Norwegian CAA) dropped the "bomb" this morning, all of us working in Røyken (ATCC and APP) got really upset.
Its not easy to hear you have to relocate and all what this brings with it regarding life and family situation.
So because we dont want to control without a "clear head", as also is stated in your guidelines. We did the only correct thing to "close down" the airspace in the intrest of safety for all you pilots and the passengers you carry with you.
So its not been any industrial action, or other form for strike taking part at all.
All that have happened is a very human reaction to a very hard situation.
thx.
FinalVectors
Music Quizmeister
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Can'tberra, ACT Australia
Age: 67
Posts: 230
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Is that the facility in the halls of the mountain king (ie - the one in the mountain? - Visited there in the mid 90's - Impressive facility).
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: 59°45'36N 10°27'59E
Posts: 1,032
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
the one in the mountain?
After all it cost approx 700 million NOK (ca 65 mill £) to build Oslo ATCC in 1995.
Crazy.....
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: head in the clouds
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Horsemanure!
What dropped bomb? Everybody knew it was going to be Røyken or Sola.
What a bunch of boohoohoos, having to move by 2008. If you can't keep a clear head when being informed of a job relocation, then you're in the wrong business.
How many times has your average pilot had to move during his/her career? I know a couple who are in double digits.
You guys are the lousiest controllers in northern Europe, amateurs compared to your very excellent next door neighbors to the south. Now we know you're also a bunch of crybabies.
Where is Ronald Reagan when we need him?
What dropped bomb? Everybody knew it was going to be Røyken or Sola.
What a bunch of boohoohoos, having to move by 2008. If you can't keep a clear head when being informed of a job relocation, then you're in the wrong business.
How many times has your average pilot had to move during his/her career? I know a couple who are in double digits.
You guys are the lousiest controllers in northern Europe, amateurs compared to your very excellent next door neighbors to the south. Now we know you're also a bunch of crybabies.
Where is Ronald Reagan when we need him?
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: EU
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Spuds,
I do not know "niknak". But he/she/it can niknak as much as he/she/it wants. Fact is that the ATC union in Norway have reacted in a safe and professional manner.
What the ATC in Norway do is exactly what Flathatter should do before he/she goes to work in an aircraft after a dispute with his/her partner. Right Flathatter?
Flathatter,
BTW, Did you swallow a wasp? This
might help, but please, do it somewhere else than here 
I do not know "niknak". But he/she/it can niknak as much as he/she/it wants. Fact is that the ATC union in Norway have reacted in a safe and professional manner.
What the ATC in Norway do is exactly what Flathatter should do before he/she goes to work in an aircraft after a dispute with his/her partner. Right Flathatter?
Flathatter,
BTW, Did you swallow a wasp? This
might help, but please, do it somewhere else than here