So what gets on your nerves ??
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So what gets on your nerves ??
OK chaps !!...listen up !! Tonight on radar moderately busy training a complete newbie I had two guys from the same company treat the tma to a rendition of the Budweiser "wasssuppp" ad !! They are easy to identify ,but, as they did not speak again after being told to shut up it is difficult to pursue !. I don't want to seem a bore BUT if they had the frequency blocked when I was trying to turn them on to the ILS I have no doubt that they would squeal like stuck pigs !!!!
There are loads of threads here about unobliging atc'ers etc what about juvenile pilots who should know better ....or is that how things are done "down under"?
Anyway rant over ...what ticks you guys off??
There are loads of threads here about unobliging atc'ers etc what about juvenile pilots who should know better ....or is that how things are done "down under"?
Anyway rant over ...what ticks you guys off??
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blokes requesting higher...when you tell them to maintain, and tell them about the traffic they say something like " yes, we can see it on tcas"
Plus, people making silly requests when its obviously effing busy " I suppose theres no chance of going direct to....."
Plus, people making silly requests when its obviously effing busy " I suppose theres no chance of going direct to....."
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1. A/c "XXX request descent"
ATC "XXX descend FL270"
A/c "Do you want us to leave now?"
2. ATC "XXX what level are you requesting?"
A/c "We'd like 330 to cruise"
ATC "Roger, climb FL330"
(updates computer, phones co-ordination)
A/c "XXX requesting FL370"
Just two of my favourites!!!
ATC "XXX descend FL270"
A/c "Do you want us to leave now?"
2. ATC "XXX what level are you requesting?"
A/c "We'd like 330 to cruise"
ATC "Roger, climb FL330"
(updates computer, phones co-ordination)
A/c "XXX requesting FL370"
Just two of my favourites!!!
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That f***in' letter stapled to pay slips this month.
'You've all done awfully well, carry on', but not enough staff, no sign of any turning up, telling us how lucky we are to be employed by such a wonderful company, how well even our managers are doing, how we can all battle on through these short term 'blips'.
Ever seen him in the ops room?
'You've all done awfully well, carry on', but not enough staff, no sign of any turning up, telling us how lucky we are to be employed by such a wonderful company, how well even our managers are doing, how we can all battle on through these short term 'blips'.
Ever seen him in the ops room?
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Good points, static! Glad this is not just a one-way topic - let's have some more pilot input. Of course, if NATS actively encouraged ATCOs to take fam flights, the knowledge pool could be further expanded. Instead, it seems to be regarded as another nuisance factor that management would love to abolish. Not to worry, keep those "hates" coming in.
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PAC, not too long ago I had a couple of phone calls with our local SATCO, asked if we could do the familiarisation thing, if we could send pilots over there to see what goes on, and invited ATCO's on fam flights. I put a notice on our company noticeboard f.i.o pilots, and now have a list that I'm trying to organise w.r.t. dates. Not one ATCO has taken up the invitation, however.
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I have been on visit to ATC a couple of times, at AMS and once when I was snowed in in Gothenburg. Always very nicely received.
We have a company policy that allows fam-flights on the jumpseat for Air Traffic Controllers. I get the impression, though, that it is only used when they go on business-trips anyway. There is some contact as well between our two unions. I get the impression that ATC knows a little bit better now what we want in certain situations and more importantly, what we don`t want.
We also get a lot more insight in certain ATC decisions. Works well.
We deal with each other on a daily basis in a very intense way, but we really don`t know a lot about each other, do we?
We have a company policy that allows fam-flights on the jumpseat for Air Traffic Controllers. I get the impression, though, that it is only used when they go on business-trips anyway. There is some contact as well between our two unions. I get the impression that ATC knows a little bit better now what we want in certain situations and more importantly, what we don`t want.
We also get a lot more insight in certain ATC decisions. Works well.
We deal with each other on a daily basis in a very intense way, but we really don`t know a lot about each other, do we?