Aircraft Performance Categories

[ATCOAndy]

Can anyone please help me...

I have a list of 53 aircfraft for which I am trying to find out Performance Categories for.

They range from a C172 to a A340-600. We use these aircraft in our simulator and the only way I seem able to determine the categories of the aircraft is by asking operators.

Surely someone has a list somewhere??

Andy

[EuroATC]

PM me, I can give you whatever info you need

[welcome_stranger]

Don't be lazy. Read AIP ENR 1.5 paras 1.2, 1.2.1. It gives you the formula and the airspeed ranges for the different categories.

Do some net searches to get the information needed to apply the formula and Roberts your parental sibling.

Either that or your could ask TMDU or the TFDC, TTGO or TGO cells, they may have the info to hand.

Just to start you off F-111 is cat E, B747 all types D, B737 all types C, A340/D, A320/C, Beech 200/300 series B, Cessna 152/A, used to have to know them off by heart when strips were hand written.

Best of luck

[ATCOAndy]

List of Aircraft

As suggested in another forum... here is the list of aircraft I'm seeking performace categories for...

Airbus A300-200
Airbus A300-600
Airbus A340-200
Airbus A340-300
Airbus A340-500
Airbus A340-600
Piper Aerostar
Israeli Aircraft Industries Astra
Raytheon Beechcraft King Air 350
British Aerospace BAe-146-100
British Aerospace BAe-146-300
Boeing 707-300
Boeing 737-300
Boeing 737-400
Boeing 737-700
Boeing 737-800
Boeing 747-400
Boeing 767-200
Boeing 767-300
Boeing 767-400
Boeing 777-300
Beechcraft King Air 200
Beechcraft Baron 58
Cessna 172 Skyhawk
Cessna 210 Centurion
Cessna 402
Cessna 404 Titan
Cessna 414 Chancellor
Cessna 421 Golden Eagle
Cessna 441 Conquest
Cessna Citation 1
Cessna Citation 2 / Bravo
McDonnell Douglas DC-10
DeHavilland Canada DHC-8-100 Dash 8
Embraer EMB-110 Bandeirante
Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia
Fokker F-27 Friendship
Fokker F-50
Grumman Turbo Mallard
Boeing Chinook
Bombardier Learjet 35
Bombardier Learjet 55
Piper P28A Warrior / Cherokee
Piper Cherokee Lance
Piper Navajo / Chieftan
Piper Cherokee Six / Saratoga
Piper Malibu
Pilatus PC-6T Turbo Porter
Sikorsky S-76
Saab 340
Beechcraft Starship 2000
Fairchild Merlin
Fairchild Metro
Israeli Aircraft Industries Westwind

Please excuse some of the naming, this is for alternate reasons.
If you can give me categories for anything, this would be great!

Andy

welcome_stranger,

I am not familiar with the TMDU or the TFDC, TTGO or TGO cell....
Or the term \'Roberts you parental sibling\'...

And I(we) still write strips by hand for everything....
I\'m sure this give you the clues, that I don\'t work for the same organisation as you...

Although we are not expected to know the categories off by heart, I think as a future professional ATCO is behoves us to have this knowledge.

But thanks for the first few categories.
I believe from the talks i\'ve had, the F111 is Cat C, but Cat E in an emergency, with the wings swept back. Is that what you have encountered??

regards
Andy

welcome_stranger,

I am not familiar with the TMDU or the TFDC, TTGO or TGO cell....
Or the term \'Roberts you parental sibling\'...

And I(we) still write strips by hand for everything....
I\'m sure this give you the clues, that I don\'t work for the same organisation as you...

Although we are not expected to know the categories off by heart, I think as a future professional ATCO is behoves us to have this knowledge.

But thanks for the first few categories.
I believe from the talks i\'ve had, the F111 is Cat C, but Cat E in an emergency, with the wings swept back. Is that what you have encountered??

regards
Andy

[keithl]

You don't recognise "Bob's yer Uncle"? I'm very surprised. Several Aussies of my acquaintance use it.

S76 is Cat A but some countries recognise Cat H for helicopters - don't know about yours.

[Giles Wembley-Hogg]

ATCOAndy

Boeing 757-200 is Cat C, Boeing 767-300 is Cat D. At least once the list is complete you can post it here for anyone else who needs it.

G W-H

[welcome_stranger]

Sri Andy got the (mistaken) impression you worked for the major supplier of control to aircraft within designated areas of Australia, obviously it must be the minor supplier of these services.

The following may have some errors - I am currently working off (old) memories

A300 series C
BA146 (all series) cat C
B707 (all) cat C
DC10 D
PA32 B
Aerostar B
Cessna 400 series are all B
Dash 8 (all) B
EMB110 B
EMB120 B
PC-6T A
Metro/Merlin B
IAI Astra C (?)
IAI Westwind C (?)
B777 D
C172 B
BE58 B
BE200 B
BE350 B
F27/F50 B
LR35/55 C
Grumman Mallard B
SF34 B

Sadly all Beech Starship 2000s have been bought back by the Beech/Raytheon company and destroyed (stupid US liabilty laws) but if they were still around they would probably be cat B


All Helicopters are cat H (ref AIP 1.5 1.2.1) but cat A is acceptable in most cases.


BTW TMDU, TFDC, TTGO and TGO are the keepers of the arcane knowledge within TAAATS

As a future Tower Controller you have to know how fast you can expect an aircraft on final to be when it crashes...oops sorry lands.

Best of Luck

[catchup]

watch it

A340-600 is "E"

[ATCOAndy]

Aircraft Performance Categories - Final few

Thankyou to all who have helped with my list of Aircraft.

I'm now down to the final few, which are:

Boeing 767-200
Boeing 767-400
Cessna 210 Centurion
Cessna Citation 1
Cessna Citation 2 / Bravo
Piper Navajo / Chieftan
Piper Malibu

I'd also like clarification on a few aircraft, which are:
As I've had contradicting/unconfirmed categories given to me...

Israeli Aircraft Industries Astra
Boeing 707-300
Israeli Aircraft Industries Westwind

Regards
Andy

PS I do know the term 'Bob's your Uncle' had just never heard it used as 'Roberts your parental sibling'

[welcome_stranger]

Found the following for you

X1.3 Stall speeds (Vat) from http://www.faa.gov/arp/ace/newsltr/2...er/Newsltr.htm
for some of the aircraft your after are

TYPE 1.3 X STALL SPEED KNOTS
AEROSPATIALE SN-601 CORVETTE 118
BEECHJET 400A/T/ T-1A JAYHAWK 121
BOMBARDIER CL-600 CHALLENGER 125
BOMBARDIER CL-601 CHALLENGER 125
BOMBARDIER CL-601-3A/3R CHALLENGER 125
BOMBARDIER CL-604 CHALLENGER 125
BOMBARDIER BD-700 GLOBAL EXPRESS 126
CESSNA 500 CITATION 108
CESSNA 501 CITATION I/SP 112
CESSNA 525 CITATION (CJ-1) 107
CESSNA 525A CITATIONJET II (CJ-2) 118
CESSNA 550 CITATION II 108
CESSNA 550 CITATION BRAVO 112
CESSNA 551 CITATION II/SP 108
CESSNA 552/T-47A 107
CESSNA S550 CITATION S/II .
CESSNA 560 CITATION V ULTRA 108
CESSNA 560 CITATION ENCORE 108
CESSNA 560 CITATION EXCEL 107
CESSNA 650 CITATION III/VI 131
CESSNA 650 CITATION VII 126
CESSNA 750 CITATION X 131
DASSAULT FALCON 10 104
DASSAULT FALCON 20 107
DASSAULT FALCON 2000 114
DASSAULT FALCON 50 113
DASSAULT FALCON 900 100
DASSAULT FALCON 900 EX 126
GULFSTREAM II 141
GULFSTREAM III 136
GULFSTREAM IV 149
GULFSTREAM V 160
HAWKER-SIDDELEY 125-400 124
HAWKER-SIDDELEY 125-600 125
BAE 125-700 125
RAYTHEON/HAWKER 125-800 120
RAYTHEON/HAWKER 125-1000 HORIZON 130
ISRAEL AIRCRAFT INDUSTRIES (IAI) - JET COMMANDER 1121 & WESTWIND 1123/1124 130
IAI - ASTRA 1125 126
IAI - GALAXY 1126 140
LEARJET 23 124
LEARJET 24 128
LEARJET 25 137
LEARJET 28/29 120
LEARJET 31 124
LEARJET 35/36 133
LEARJET 45 129
LEARJET 55 138
LEARJET 60 149
MITSUBISHI MU-300 DIAMOND 109
RAYTHEON 390 PREMIER 120
SABRELINER T-39 .
SABRELINER 40 120
SABRELINER 60 134
SABRELINER 65 124
SABRELINER 75 137
SABRELINER 75a/80 128

And


Operating Performance A340-200/300/500/600

* Vat 134-145 knots Landing @ Runway Threshold Speed @ MLW full flap/Gear down

Operating Performance:
B767-200/300/200ER & 300ER


* Vat 140-145 knots Landing @ Runway Threshold Speed @ MLW full flap/Gear down


Now from AIP 1.5 etc the categories are based on Vat

CAT A Speeds up to 90kts
B Speeds from 91kts to 120kts
C Speeds from 121kts to 140kts
D Speeds from 141kts to 165kts
E Speeds from 166kts to 210kts

Okay 'nuff from me wife's about to beat me up. Now you have to do your own homework Andy.

Best of luck again and I hope this helps

[turn right 5 degrees]

welcome_stranger

At least one Beech Starship still flys, it was used as a chase plane for Bert Rutans Spaceship One venture on 21 June.

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