Aircraft Performance Categories
Can anyone please help me...
I have a list of 53 aircfraft for which I am trying to find out Performance Categories for. They range from a C172 to a A340-600. We use these aircraft in our simulator and the only way I seem able to determine the categories of the aircraft is by asking operators. Surely someone has a list somewhere?? Andy :D |
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Don't be lazy. Read AIP ENR 1.5 paras 1.2, 1.2.1. It gives you the formula and the airspeed ranges for the different categories.
Do some net searches to get the information needed to apply the formula and Roberts your parental sibling. Either that or your could ask TMDU or the TFDC, TTGO or TGO cells, they may have the info to hand. Just to start you off F-111 is cat E, B747 all types D, B737 all types C, A340/D, A320/C, Beech 200/300 series B, Cessna 152/A, used to have to know them off by heart when strips were hand written. Best of luck :ok: |
List of Aircraft
As suggested in another forum... here is the list of aircraft I'm seeking performace categories for...
Airbus A300-200 Airbus A300-600 Airbus A340-200 Airbus A340-300 Airbus A340-500 Airbus A340-600 Piper Aerostar Israeli Aircraft Industries Astra Raytheon Beechcraft King Air 350 British Aerospace BAe-146-100 British Aerospace BAe-146-300 Boeing 707-300 Boeing 737-300 Boeing 737-400 Boeing 737-700 Boeing 737-800 Boeing 747-400 Boeing 767-200 Boeing 767-300 Boeing 767-400 Boeing 777-300 Beechcraft King Air 200 Beechcraft Baron 58 Cessna 172 Skyhawk Cessna 210 Centurion Cessna 402 Cessna 404 Titan Cessna 414 Chancellor Cessna 421 Golden Eagle Cessna 441 Conquest Cessna Citation 1 Cessna Citation 2 / Bravo McDonnell Douglas DC-10 DeHavilland Canada DHC-8-100 Dash 8 Embraer EMB-110 Bandeirante Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia Fokker F-27 Friendship Fokker F-50 Grumman Turbo Mallard Boeing Chinook Bombardier Learjet 35 Bombardier Learjet 55 Piper P28A Warrior / Cherokee Piper Cherokee Lance Piper Navajo / Chieftan Piper Cherokee Six / Saratoga Piper Malibu Pilatus PC-6T Turbo Porter Sikorsky S-76 Saab 340 Beechcraft Starship 2000 Fairchild Merlin Fairchild Metro Israeli Aircraft Industries Westwind Please excuse some of the naming, this is for alternate reasons. If you can give me categories for anything, this would be great! Andy welcome_stranger, I am not familiar with the TMDU or the TFDC, TTGO or TGO cell.... Or the term \'Roberts you parental sibling\'... And I(we) still write strips by hand for everything.... I\'m sure this give you the clues, that I don\'t work for the same organisation as you... Although we are not expected to know the categories off by heart, I think as a future professional ATCO is behoves us to have this knowledge. But thanks for the first few categories. I believe from the talks i\'ve had, the F111 is Cat C, but Cat E in an emergency, with the wings swept back. Is that what you have encountered?? regards Andy welcome_stranger, I am not familiar with the TMDU or the TFDC, TTGO or TGO cell.... Or the term \'Roberts you parental sibling\'... And I(we) still write strips by hand for everything.... I\'m sure this give you the clues, that I don\'t work for the same organisation as you... Although we are not expected to know the categories off by heart, I think as a future professional ATCO is behoves us to have this knowledge. But thanks for the first few categories. I believe from the talks i\'ve had, the F111 is Cat C, but Cat E in an emergency, with the wings swept back. Is that what you have encountered?? regards Andy |
You don't recognise "Bob's yer Uncle"? I'm very surprised. Several Aussies of my acquaintance use it.
S76 is Cat A but some countries recognise Cat H for helicopters - don't know about yours. |
ATCOAndy
Boeing 757-200 is Cat C, Boeing 767-300 is Cat D. At least once the list is complete you can post it here for anyone else who needs it. G W-H |
Sri Andy got the (mistaken) impression you worked for the major supplier of control to aircraft within designated areas of Australia, obviously it must be the minor supplier of these services.
The following may have some errors - I am currently working off (old) memories A300 series C BA146 (all series) cat C B707 (all) cat C DC10 D PA32 B Aerostar B Cessna 400 series are all B Dash 8 (all) B EMB110 B EMB120 B PC-6T A Metro/Merlin B IAI Astra C (?) IAI Westwind C (?) B777 D C172 B BE58 B BE200 B BE350 B F27/F50 B LR35/55 C Grumman Mallard B SF34 B Sadly all Beech Starship 2000s have been bought back by the Beech/Raytheon company and destroyed (stupid US liabilty laws) but if they were still around they would probably be cat B All Helicopters are cat H (ref AIP 1.5 1.2.1) but cat A is acceptable in most cases. BTW TMDU, TFDC, TTGO and TGO are the keepers of the arcane knowledge within TAAATS As a future Tower Controller you have to know how fast you can expect an aircraft on final to be when it crashes...oops sorry lands. :O Best of Luck:ok: |
watch it
A340-600 is "E" |
Aircraft Performance Categories - Final few
Thankyou to all who have helped with my list of Aircraft.
I'm now down to the final few, which are: Boeing 767-200 Boeing 767-400 Cessna 210 Centurion Cessna Citation 1 Cessna Citation 2 / Bravo Piper Navajo / Chieftan Piper Malibu I'd also like clarification on a few aircraft, which are: As I've had contradicting/unconfirmed categories given to me... Israeli Aircraft Industries Astra Boeing 707-300 Israeli Aircraft Industries Westwind Regards Andy PS I do know the term 'Bob's your Uncle' had just never heard it used as 'Roberts your parental sibling' :O |
Found the following for you
X1.3 Stall speeds (Vat) from http://www.faa.gov/arp/ace/newsltr/2...er/Newsltr.htm for some of the aircraft your after are TYPE 1.3 X STALL SPEED KNOTS AEROSPATIALE SN-601 CORVETTE 118 BEECHJET 400A/T/ T-1A JAYHAWK 121 BOMBARDIER CL-600 CHALLENGER 125 BOMBARDIER CL-601 CHALLENGER 125 BOMBARDIER CL-601-3A/3R CHALLENGER 125 BOMBARDIER CL-604 CHALLENGER 125 BOMBARDIER BD-700 GLOBAL EXPRESS 126 CESSNA 500 CITATION 108 CESSNA 501 CITATION I/SP 112 CESSNA 525 CITATION (CJ-1) 107 CESSNA 525A CITATIONJET II (CJ-2) 118 CESSNA 550 CITATION II 108 CESSNA 550 CITATION BRAVO 112 CESSNA 551 CITATION II/SP 108 CESSNA 552/T-47A 107 CESSNA S550 CITATION S/II . CESSNA 560 CITATION V ULTRA 108 CESSNA 560 CITATION ENCORE 108 CESSNA 560 CITATION EXCEL 107 CESSNA 650 CITATION III/VI 131 CESSNA 650 CITATION VII 126 CESSNA 750 CITATION X 131 DASSAULT FALCON 10 104 DASSAULT FALCON 20 107 DASSAULT FALCON 2000 114 DASSAULT FALCON 50 113 DASSAULT FALCON 900 100 DASSAULT FALCON 900 EX 126 GULFSTREAM II 141 GULFSTREAM III 136 GULFSTREAM IV 149 GULFSTREAM V 160 HAWKER-SIDDELEY 125-400 124 HAWKER-SIDDELEY 125-600 125 BAE 125-700 125 RAYTHEON/HAWKER 125-800 120 RAYTHEON/HAWKER 125-1000 HORIZON 130 ISRAEL AIRCRAFT INDUSTRIES (IAI) - JET COMMANDER 1121 & WESTWIND 1123/1124 130 IAI - ASTRA 1125 126 IAI - GALAXY 1126 140 LEARJET 23 124 LEARJET 24 128 LEARJET 25 137 LEARJET 28/29 120 LEARJET 31 124 LEARJET 35/36 133 LEARJET 45 129 LEARJET 55 138 LEARJET 60 149 MITSUBISHI MU-300 DIAMOND 109 RAYTHEON 390 PREMIER 120 SABRELINER T-39 . SABRELINER 40 120 SABRELINER 60 134 SABRELINER 65 124 SABRELINER 75 137 SABRELINER 75a/80 128 And Operating Performance A340-200/300/500/600 * Vat 134-145 knots Landing @ Runway Threshold Speed @ MLW full flap/Gear down Operating Performance: B767-200/300/200ER & 300ER * Vat 140-145 knots Landing @ Runway Threshold Speed @ MLW full flap/Gear down Now from AIP 1.5 etc the categories are based on Vat CAT A Speeds up to 90kts B Speeds from 91kts to 120kts C Speeds from 121kts to 140kts D Speeds from 141kts to 165kts E Speeds from 166kts to 210kts Okay 'nuff from me wife's about to beat me up. Now you have to do your own homework Andy. Best of luck again and I hope this helps |
welcome_stranger
At least one Beech Starship still flys, it was used as a chase plane for Bert Rutans Spaceship One venture on 21 June. ;) t r 5 d |
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