View Full Version : jetset ask jmc for 757 drivers.....rumour has it.
tailscrape
6th Mar 2002, 23:10
It would appear that Air2000 have approached jmc about some temporary 757 drivers for this summer.. .. .Rumours in Commonstealth House, Manchester abound that up to 17 type rated jocks are needed for the summer only.. .. .I hope that the jetset have looked after those laid off before sniffing about for other crews....it would not be on for us jmc boys to steal other people's livelihoods now would it???. .. .If there own lads and lasses are sorted now, then naturally this is ebbing towards being good news.. .. .Yours unreliably as ever,. .. .Tailcrapper.
Dan Winterland
6th Mar 2002, 23:20
It would be better news if the jobs were permanent rather than seasonal. With the Airtours temporary A320 contract - I hope this isn't a trend for the IT sector.
ChickenHawk
6th Mar 2002, 23:51
Just spoke to a mate in JMC who is likely to go down the tubes! He confirmed that their management have advertised summer Air2bob 757 positions for FOs who have been given notice. This is good news for them. I am little more reserved about the news since I was one of the 21 75 drivers that Air2bob laid off just before Christmas! Nobody has offered me my job back yet! . .. .Ask me how I feel? Just wonderful!. .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 06 March 2002, 19:53: Message edited by: ChickenHawk ]</small>
tailscrape
7th Mar 2002, 00:10
ChickenHawk,. .. .I am one of the 17 jmc guys who are down the road in May.. .. .Let me assure you of this, I will not be going to Air2000 if it means I have dislodged you.. .. .I am a very earnest BALPA member and I will be damned if I would want to be treated like that by anyone.. .. .I do however ask you: have you got another job yet?? If so, that is somewhat different.. .. .I cannot imagine AMM will want to take us JMC boys if they could get you back for the summer.. .. .After all there will be a cost to AMM of us going there. Sims, SOP's, Uniforms etc.....all cost money.. .. .Dan Winterland: Yes, a worrying trend indeed this summer only work. However jmc have offered us ALL a career break as opposed to redundancy. They will still dish out the redundancy pay if you take the break. Seniority will be maintained, as will payscales etc and you will have a guaranteed date of rejoining given to you when you head off.. .. .All in all, I will still have a full time job with jmc in the future if I want it. On exactly the same terms as I and all the other jmc team have right now.. .. .It has taken forever, but our CC have won quite a few battles for us, and I don't think the fight is out of us all just yet.. .. .Ding Ding, round 452. Lets get ready to rumble.....
ChickenHawk
7th Mar 2002, 00:29
Comforting to hear tailscrape and by the way I have not got a job yet. Sounds like you are getting a reasonable deal in the circumstances, and you still have DHL, Transair Sweden AB and a couple of other 757 users who are recruiting, albeit slowly, to look for jobs with. We got shown the door with a reference and 3 months in lieu of notice taxed.. .. .What beggars belief is that a company can offer another company's pilots jobs without first offering them to the guys they just made redundant!. . . . <small>[ 06 March 2002, 20:31: Message edited by: ChickenHawk ]</small>
EPRman
7th Mar 2002, 00:40
The whole sorry episode is a disgrace.
TurbineOne
7th Mar 2002, 01:07
As one other guys being on the end of the **** stick i would like reiterate Tailscape's message we will not take Air2 Bobs jobs before you guys.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. .I've had a few drinks so i will not put down what i am thinking about are management just lets say am very unhappy to say the least.. .. .Tailscape i think it's down to 16 with one guy going below us which doesn't mean a Fu.k really.. .I must say its nice to see the emails from you no who, regarding puting are names forward to certain companies.. .. .Having been looking around for the last couple of months, and talking to certian people i do believe that the market is picking up for the summer and it won't be long before we are back in work if it's only for the summer **** i'll take it. i haven't work for sooooo long to get to this point in my life for some one to take it from me....oh no!!!!!!!!. .. .there rant over, as i've said had a few drinks sorry about the speeling. .. .Cheers. .Keep the Faith..
allthenines
7th Mar 2002, 01:22
And Air 2000 are forcing some of their 757 drivers to go on Airbus courses. Bizarre!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />
toulouse_le_trek
7th Mar 2002, 03:22
Its a sad time to be sure. What is the industry coming to?
tailscrape
7th Mar 2002, 05:15
Turbine One,. .. .Yes, you are right me old fruit. It is down to 16.. .. .I am still of the opinion that if we jmc guys are being sourced by the jetset, without their guys being reinstated, then that is completely incorrect in anyone's book.. .. .But I am assured that is not the case.. . . . <small>[ 09 March 2002, 05:01: Message edited by: tailscrape ]</small>
ChickenHawk
7th Mar 2002, 11:59
Am I surprised, it seems that jmc have followed Air2bobs lead in all these matters of redundancy and demotion but hats off to your CC mate they have engaged in constructive dialogue which has produced some real results, just a pity that you guys have to fall off the bottom. Thank you for your support anyhow guys.. .. .I paid my dues to BALPA, I wonder what they are going to say about this sorry affair, perhaps I will give my custom to IPA/IPF in future?. .. .Still waiting for a phone call..…………..am I holding my breath, I don't think so,but then it is only 8am and I’m not entitled to JSA until 17 Mar, so maybe I should wait till then!. .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />
tailscrape
7th Mar 2002, 14:30
ChickenHawk,. .. .I think you will hear something.. .. .We have, and our joining you is dependant on your returning to the fold before us coming along apparently.. .. .This is the only acceptable way forward, I am sure you will be back in very soon.. .. .Let us all know when the phone rings mate...
ChickenHawk
7th Mar 2002, 19:15
wilco tailscrape!. .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" />
toulouse_le_trek
8th Mar 2002, 12:04
It has begun, first calls last night by the look of it. I wonder if that means summer commands for the demotees!
ChickenHawk
8th Mar 2002, 15:10
Tailscrape & Turbine One. .. .Did you get your call yet, we all did, so I guess they must have a first cut of possible numbers? . .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" />
tailscrape
8th Mar 2002, 15:55
We are waiting and watching at this end.....but we hear it looks like it may be a go er for the summer season.
ChickenHawk
8th Mar 2002, 16:20
C u at the sim maybe? I expect you will prefer the gold bars to those silver things; and that green, arggggggh. Mind you who gives a tosh about the colour?. .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
tailscrape
8th Mar 2002, 16:22
I don't care what i wear!! Or what I fly!! As long as someone pays me!!
TurbineOne
8th Mar 2002, 20:34
Just got off the phone with the Chief Pilot regarding what’s happening as I’ve just read my emails.. .Looks like we waiting for the numbers to be finalized then we should know the numbers from the JMC.. .. .Lets hope.. .Still keep some form of faith..............
Hi all,. .. .Its' not just pilots, rumour has it that Air 2000 line engineering will be suplimented by JMC engineers as and when required.. .. .Merger on the sly?