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CMpilot1
21st Aug 2020, 06:59
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The above is a para from FCTM UAS chapter. I don't understand how the FPV is affected along with the barometric altitude. It may be recalled that ADR provides barometric altitude and FPV is supplied by the IR part. UAS is a resultant of pitot/static blockage and not related to IR failure. How is FPV affected in this case? Any thoughts?

Tail-take-off
21st Aug 2020, 07:10
A common misconception. The bird is primarily IRS derived but also has a static input. See below from the FCTM (my bold).


FCTM > Aircraft systems > Bird

RELIABILITY

The bird is computed from IRS data and is affected by inertial errors. During the approach, the flight crew may detect a small track error, usually up to +/-2 °.

The bird is also computed from static pressure information. Therefore, if the altitude information is not reliable, the flight crew must consider the bird as not reliable.

CMpilot1
21st Aug 2020, 08:47
Thanks for the reply T-T-O. I have reviewed that in the FCTM. My doubt was based on the below info from FCOM and FCTM.
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Here is an excerpt from FCOM
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/582x120/screenshot_7_li_d305a6beecb32a33f0deca3c68e826f6f238bbbb.jpg
And here is an excerpt from FCTM...

Tail-take-off
21st Aug 2020, 11:39
You might be over thinking this. The FCOM is notoriously sketchy with its information, giving you only what Airbus think you need to know. If the FCOM stated that the bird DID NOT have a static feed while the FCTM said it did then I would obviously go with the FCOM. However in this case I believe that the FCTM is adding information to that given in the FCOM rather than directly contradicting it.

sonicbum
21st Aug 2020, 11:59
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/574x176/screenshot_5_li_37c44572bba0c4795d100b1093bdff1aa94a4553.jpg
The above is a para from FCTM UAS chapter. I don't understand how the FPV is affected along with the barometric altitude. It may be recalled that ADR provides barometric altitude and FPV is supplied by the IR part. UAS is a resultant of pitot/static blockage and not related to IR failure. How is FPV affected in this case? Any thoughts?

Answer is HERE. (https://www.pprune.org/8263383-post21.html)

Smooth Airperator
21st Aug 2020, 15:14
Thanks A33Zab and sonicbum. Now when the instructor asks me to "switch on the f******" bird!" (on an old sim) for an approach/landing following an unreliable speed incident, I can wipe his nose through this paragraph :p

Check Airman
21st Aug 2020, 17:49
Answer is HERE. (https://www.pprune.org/8263383-post21.html)
So only after the BUSS activation, is the FPA solely reliant on the IR information? Do I have that right? What about planes without BUSS?

neilki
22nd Aug 2020, 16:33
So only after the BUSS activation, is the FPA solely reliant on the IR information? Do I have that right? What about planes without BUSS?
the BUSS is Air Data (Not IR)
​​​​​​—AoA data (as a red/green/red IAS tape and GPS altitude.
i think by definition IR data can’t be trusted...

sonicbum
22nd Aug 2020, 16:57
So only after the BUSS activation, is the FPA solely reliant on the IR information? Do I have that right? What about planes without BUSS?

I will link You to the rest of the thread where A33Zab explains it perfectly !

HERE (https://www.pprune.org/8266520-post23.html)

Check Airman
22nd Aug 2020, 18:45
Appreciate it. Will have a read