A380 + Taxiway = OOPS!

[cavuman1]

BA A-380 (https://simpleflying.com/heavy-british-airways-a380-crushes-french-airport-taxiway/?fbclid=IwAR0wrAuPvXxgjXzIb2WSV1COhw29f7AWw8lzK57K8Obk_AXFZP 4ffPXVk88)

- Ed

Sorry, meleagertoo! I attempted to attach photos to no avail. Try visiting
https://simpleflying.com/heavy-british-airways-a380-crushes-french-airport-taxiway/?fbclid=IwAR0wrAuPvXxgjXzIb2WSV1COhw29f7AWw8lzK57K8Obk_AXFZP 4ffPXVk88

If that fails, try searching Chateauroux Airport Incident.

[meleagertoo]

Not visible due to site restrictions.

[hunbet]

Kind of a non issue. They were being guided into long term parking on the taxiway.

[cavuman1]

You may be right, hunbet, but the damage to the taxiway seems rather substantial in the accompanying photographs. Were you able to follow the link referenced in my initial post? Another consideration is the long-term storage of BA 380's; I think only one or two are left to fly for BA. I wonder if the story is a scam?

- Ed

[B772]

The a/c went off the taxiway onto a nil strength shoulder.

[DaveReidUK]

I think only one or two are left to fly for BA. I wonder if the story is a scam?- Ed

All but two of BA's 12 A380s are at Châteauroux, one is in Manila on heavy maintenance and the last is still at LHR, presumably a Christmas tree by now.

[The AvgasDinosaur]

Doesn’t matter probably won’t be needed again, use for spares to keep the few they might return to service healthy!
David

[ORAC]

Doesn’t matter probably won’t be needed again, use for spares to keep the few they might return to service healthy!
David I wonder.

With airlines potentially having to leave one empty seat between every two passengers has anyone done the maths on how many pax a, say, 777 will be able to carry as compared to an 380? What will that do to operating costs?

[DaveReidUK]

With airlines potentially having to leave one empty seat between every two passengers has anyone done the maths on how many pax a, say, 777 will be able to carry as compared to an 380?

You probably don't want passengers sitting immediately in front of or behind other pax, as well as beside them.

So, for example using a narrow-body for simplicity, passengers would sit in A, C and E in one row, then B, D and F in the rows immediately in front and behind. Same on a wide-body, just more letters. :O

That would make the math/maths relatively simple, in that a maximum of 50% of seats could be occupied (though you may be able to fill a higher percentage of seats in F and C where they are more widely spaced).

Whether that would be an effective way of mitigating the risk is another question ...

What will that do to operating costs?

It wouldn't make much difference to operating costs, but that's probably not what you meant. :O

[pattern_is_full]

Probably worth its own thread (for those who like science-magazine math puzzlers)

I thought the spacing still had to be 2m/6 feet in any direction, minimum. I think the max in narrow bodies would be no pax on alternate rows, 2 pax for other rows (window or center)

O = empty seat, X = Pax

XOO OXO
OOO OOO
OXO OXO
OOO OOO
XOO OOX
....etc.

[G-ARZG]

The a/c went off the taxiway onto a nil strength shoulder.

BA - 'Bonjour Chateauroux, about our refund for the damaged A380?'

CHR - 'Ah sorry, m' sieur, we can only offer you a voucher for re-use in next 12 months... '

[Meester proach]

Probably worth its own thread (for those who like science-magazine math puzzlers)

I thought the spacing still had to be 2m/6 feet in any direction, minimum. I think the max in narrow bodies would be no pax on alternate rows, 2 pax for other rows (window or center)

O = empty seat, X = Pax

XOO OXO
OOO OOO
OXO OXO
OOO OOO
XOO OOX
....etc.


no point even bothering then , that’ll likely make a massive loss

[ORAC]

Simplistically, half the rows empty, 3/6, and one third of the rest, 2/6, gives a pax load of about 30-35%, so tickets three times the price.

(As I said simplistic, as the hold fright will contribute).

Long distance tourist traffic will collapse, but LC carriers such as EasyJet might be able to cope at reduced volumes - an extra £150 on a Summer holiday won’t put everyone off, and the hotel prices will be lower as they will be desperate fir costumers - and it will still be cheaper than hotel costs in the UK fir stsycstions.

My question was more on the lines of do the operating seat costs per mile scale directly across all types?

e.g. If it is cheaper to fly a 90% full 777 than a 70% full A-380, will it still be cheaper to fly a 30% full 777 than a 30% full A-380?

[ATC Watcher]

One option being looked at are , one by one boarding / deplane , special masks plus gloves and disinfecting aircraft before every flight ,no drinks served, adjacent /middle seats free.etc , maybe good for short haul.. Cannot see this on 10+ hours flights ...you cannot drink eat without taking the masks off. . one cough or sneeze, and off you go... . Probably just all ideas from marketing guys in offices making plans ...as to using A380s for short haul.. been discussed and even tried at the beginning , abandoned .

[FullWings]

This is the future:


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/623x375/druine_20d31_20turbulent_20vh_uli_20_20pf_e969fe61aaf8dd4b10 6c88de563cde3b10825cd1.jpg

[timpara]

Probably worth its own thread (for those who like science-magazine math puzzlers)

I thought the spacing still had to be 2m/6 feet in any direction, minimum. I think the max in narrow bodies would be no pax on alternate rows, 2 pax for other rows (window or center)

O = empty seat, X = Pax

XOO OXO
OOO OOO
OXO OXO
OOO OOO
XOO OOX
....etc.
The X at the bottom left being coughin' corner?