LHR 10R SID.

[Brian 48nav]

Help! What was the name of the special SID off 10R for Speedbird 747s going north before Westbound across the 'pond' on hot summer days?

[hairstreak]

Think it was called a Polar Departure.

[Talkdownman]

Think it was called a Polar Departure.
Correct..!

[Brian 48nav]

Thanks guys _ I knew you would remember Malcy!
This cross-refers with the BA747-136 thread on Aviation History and Nostalgia.

[Talkdownman]

I seem to recall the Polar SID went 10R-Bromley-Biggin-BPK climbing to 6 because it couldn't make the Kilburn level restriction...?

[hairstreak]

Don't wish to be pedantic but I'm pretty sure it was Bromley-Hornchurch-BPK all at 4000ft. Also recall that it could be usd by Japanair for the Anchorage flight and possibly Pan Am to Seattle.

[Talkdownman]

Don't wish to be pedantic but I'm pretty sure it was Bromley-Hornchurch-BPK all at 4000ft. Also recall that it could be usd by Japanair for the Anchorage flight and possibly Pan Am to Seattle.
Maybe. I hope that my memory is as good as yours when I get to 71...!

[chevvron]

Wasn't there a 'Polar' departure off 28s as well? Routed via EPM and BPK dated back to the days before 747s and possibly 'binned' when the LTMA was re-configured in '76; I remember it being used in 1970 when I was a radar monitor at the old north side radar unit.

[chevvron]

Maybe. I hope that my memory is as good as yours when I get to 71...!
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[chevvron]

I seem to recall the Polar SID went 10R-Bromley-Biggin-BPK climbing to 6 because it couldn't make the Kilburn level restriction...?
I remember the very first one out of Heathrow, a Pan Am one on a 'demo' flight which had arrived early that moring.
It was carrying not a lot or fuel and was about half full of so called VIP passengers.
His first words after departure were 'London I'm not gonna make 4,000 by Woodley'.

[sealo0]

I remember the very first one out of Heathrow, a Pan Am one on a 'demo' flight which had arrived early that moring.
It was carrying not a lot or fuel and was about half full of so called VIP passengers.
His first words after departure were 'London I'm not gonna make 4,000 by Woodley'.

OH No!!! not the World's most experienced airline – having one of it's experiences. Wonder what happened to them.

Mike

[HEATHROW DIRECTOR]

hairstreak - you were right. I recall passing that clearance to A PanAm flight once and got "roger" in response. When I asked him a readback the answer was amazing: "Errr roger,Brookchurh Park Hill........." Great days.

[Brian 48nav]

This 72yr old could remember the Alt'4000' bit ( see Aviation History etc ) but not the reporting points. Can't win em' all!

As you say, Bren, Great days!

BW

[ex-EGLL]

Slightly off topic.... did the 5th pod operations just involve negating the 250kts below 10,000 or were there altitude implications as well?

[chevvron]

Slightly off topic.... did the 5th pod operations just involve negating the 250kts below 10,000 or were there altitude implications as well?
Dunno, I ony know I was stuck in Nairobi for 36 hours back in '78 while a replacement engine for our '747 was brought in by 5th pod. This engine lasted 2 hours after departure and we returned to Nairobi again.