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arthur harbrow
20th Jul 2002, 11:40
Seem to remember, maybe ten years ago. a 707 freighter loosing
two engines, literally, over France and landing at Istres.
Were these off the same wing or would a 707 be impossible to
fly in these circumstances?
Engineer
20th Jul 2002, 12:26
Transcript of the
Istres Accident (http://aviation-safety.net/database/1992/920331-0.htm)
should answer all your questions.
If you can read french
Official Report (http://www.bea-fr.org/anglaise/rapports/rap.htm)
will need to nav to the report
lomapaseo
20th Jul 2002, 12:35
Actually there were two such incidents in Europe, the last one being an IAT freighter out of Belgium, 14 Nov 1998.
There was also one out of Miami before the one that you cited above.
In all incidents # 3 engine departed and struck and damaged the wing/#4 outboard engine. In all incidents the aircraft was controlable. However in the incident that you cite, a fire broke out which seriously degraded the wing.
Certainly says something about the robust 707 airframe and controlability thereof....something "newer" types just don't have. DC-10 comes to mind.....
lomapaseo
20th Jul 2002, 15:51
"Certainly says something about the robust 707 airframe and controlability thereof....something "newer" types just don't have. DC-10 comes to mind.....
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That's a conclusion that I don't agree with:(
More like luck of draw when you release a running engine. If it hits the wing in a critical area you're in trouble.
I don't believe that they knowingly design aircraft to sustain a running engine running back into it.
canberra
21st Jul 2002, 10:43
the co-pilot wrote an article on this in pilot magazine. during the gulf war this happened to a usaf kc135, and didnt the same happen to the 747 that crashed at amsterdam?
lomapaseo
21st Jul 2002, 13:02
"and didnt the same happen to the 747 that crashed at amsterdam?
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Yes, and also CI at Taipei before that.
The EV event out of Anchorage had a different release cause and the wing and other engines were not damaged. Same for the DC8 over Colorado.
Seems like the actual means of release affect where the engine goes after it's release. (still awaiting details on AA587)
arthur harbrow
21st Jul 2002, 13:38
Thanks very much for the replies.I mentioned the Istres incident
last night to a non ppruner and he said he thought the co-pilot
was English and had actually taken some inflight photos of the
engines missing.
Whatever, it must have been an amazing feat to get the aircraft
back on the ground almost intact.