Wikiposts
Search
Questions If you are a professional pilot or your work involves professional aviation please use this forum for questions. Enthusiasts, please use the 'Spectators Balcony' forum.

707 lost engines

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 20th Jul 2002, 11:40
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: kinmel bay
Posts: 150
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
707 lost engines

Seem to remember, maybe ten years ago. a 707 freighter loosing
two engines, literally, over France and landing at Istres.
Were these off the same wing or would a 707 be impossible to
fly in these circumstances?
arthur harbrow is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2002, 12:26
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Home
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Transcript of the

Istres Accident

should answer all your questions.

If you can read french

Official Report

will need to nav to the report

Last edited by Engineer; 20th Jul 2002 at 12:30.
Engineer is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2002, 12:35
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,569
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Actually there were two such incidents in Europe, the last one being an IAT freighter out of Belgium, 14 Nov 1998.

There was also one out of Miami before the one that you cited above.

In all incidents # 3 engine departed and struck and damaged the wing/#4 outboard engine. In all incidents the aircraft was controlable. However in the incident that you cite, a fire broke out which seriously degraded the wing.
lomapaseo is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2002, 12:44
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Arizona USA
Posts: 8,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Certainly says something about the robust 707 airframe and controlability thereof....something "newer" types just don't have. DC-10 comes to mind.....
411A is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2002, 15:51
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,569
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
"Certainly says something about the robust 707 airframe and controlability thereof....something "newer" types just don't have. DC-10 comes to mind.....

"

That's a conclusion that I don't agree with

More like luck of draw when you release a running engine. If it hits the wing in a critical area you're in trouble.

I don't believe that they knowingly design aircraft to sustain a running engine running back into it.
lomapaseo is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2002, 10:43
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: preston
Posts: 433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
707 engines

the co-pilot wrote an article on this in pilot magazine. during the gulf war this happened to a usaf kc135, and didnt the same happen to the 747 that crashed at amsterdam?
canberra is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2002, 13:02
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,569
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
"and didnt the same happen to the 747 that crashed at amsterdam?
"

Yes, and also CI at Taipei before that.

The EV event out of Anchorage had a different release cause and the wing and other engines were not damaged. Same for the DC8 over Colorado.

Seems like the actual means of release affect where the engine goes after it's release. (still awaiting details on AA587)
lomapaseo is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2002, 13:38
  #8 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: kinmel bay
Posts: 150
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks very much for the replies.I mentioned the Istres incident
last night to a non ppruner and he said he thought the co-pilot
was English and had actually taken some inflight photos of the
engines missing.
Whatever, it must have been an amazing feat to get the aircraft
back on the ground almost intact.
arthur harbrow is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.