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CONF iture
22nd Sep 2016, 17:28
As for all this nonsense about flying a Cessna around, give me a break. Perhaps the Captain of the QM2 should take his sail boat out on a Sunday afternoon jolly around the lake?
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if the Captain on the QM2 has his own sail boat and enjoy it a lot - Maybe he's doing things more freely on his own boat, and is not temped that way by a Giglio scenario ...

Highly recommended to rent a Cessna time to time. So nice to forget about strict SOP for the simple pleasure of flying.
At least, proceeding for a couple touch and go exercises leave no doubt in my mind how you need to get power first before you can even think about rotating ...

Chronus
22nd Sep 2016, 17:57
Accepting the situation and aircraft configuration as it was, my question is:
What made the crew decide to go around, late.

John Marsh
22nd Sep 2016, 17:58
This discussion remonds me of something Captain Sullenberger said about the way he flies.

At any given point in a flight, he prepares a mental list of his options, should an emergency situation develop. I would imagine that said list expands with altitude; would this sort of approach have helped the crew of EK521?

RAT 5
22nd Sep 2016, 18:50
At any given point in a flight, he prepares a mental list of his options, should an emergency situation develop.

Digressing from the topic, but you threw it out there:
I used to drop that in the lap of a 3000hr SFO soon to start the command upgrade process in todays fats track LoCo's during a TFS out over the sea with nothing to see but sea. The scenario was not necessarily an emergency, usually more subtle (as DXB was). Silence and somewhat surprise at the question. I encouraged some thinking by saying, "You expect to be sitting here in a few months. So what are you going to do to lead your a/c, crew & pax out of this situation?" The difference in interest was astonishing. Some were very smart and enthusiastic because it was rare to be challenged: others were WTF, I haven't started the course yet and I can fly the a/c as well as you.
I'll stick with the Sully philosophy. We ain't supposed to be up there. Man & machine versus gravity & mother nature. Always have an escape route. Identify one, every 30 mins, then read the paper.

framer
22nd Sep 2016, 22:19
I'll stick with the Sully philosophy. We ain't supposed to be up there. Man & machine versus gravity & mother nature. Always have an escape route. Identify one, every 30 mins, then read the paper.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have been reading the paper if you were on Sully's flight deck. If he was on yours, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be reading the paper.

RAT 5
23rd Sep 2016, 04:08
Joke: of course. I forgot the smiley.

Elle Overdee
31st Jan 2024, 03:49
Greetings.
I'm looking for insight from experienced 777 drivers who might be familiar with the final report for UAE521.
On page 93, the report mentions :...., the FCOM non-normal checklist confirmation calls for a go-around with
an A/T inoperative, the pilot flying is required to call “Set go-around thrust”.

The 777 NNC I came across (MBF) doesn't include any instructions for an inop A/T situation other than to control the thrust manually.
Can anyone shed some light on what they are referring to in that paragraph?
Here's a link that should get you to the final report in question.

//reports.aviation-safety.net/2016/20160803-0_B773_A6-EMW.pdf
(you may have to add https ahead of the link)

Compton3fox
31st Jan 2024, 08:34
Greetings.
I'm looking for insight from experienced 777 drivers who might be familiar with the final report for UAE521.
On page 93, the report mentions :

The 777 NNC I came across (MBF) doesn't include any instructions for an inop A/T situation other than to control the thrust manually.
Can anyone shed some light on what they are referring to in that paragraph?
Here's a link that should get you to the final report in question.

//reports.aviation-safety.net/2016/20160803-0_B773_A6-EMW.pdf
(you may have to add https ahead of the link)

https://reports.aviation-safety.net/2016/20160803-0_B773_A6-EMW.pdf

Cabotage
31st Jan 2024, 09:02
From what I remember, whenever you call go around, you manually stack the thrust levers (you don't have to firewall them, just move them forward to help beat the autothrottle).