atco training in sussex?

[YouSaidBolt]

Do they still train for atcos in Sussex?schoolfriend on the south coast wants to look at training and nats are sooooo slow

[Pringle_]

These are the training providers approved by the UK CAA

ATC Training Providers | Air Traffic Services | Operations and Safety (http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=2004&pagetype=90&pageid=11299)

[YouSaidBolt]

Thanks guys..i was told (by him)that there is 9 months after graduating to start training but there is aapc or something that can be done is that right?am confused now though as there seems to one in shoreham is that not right?????????????

[YouSaidBolt]

Sorry but what do you mean wary???????????are their crooks out their????

[whitelighter]

AFAIK a student ATCO license is valid from date of issue for 2 years.

That is, you have 2 years to commence on the job training, but the training can be completed after the initial 2 year period

[YouSaidBolt]

Thank you whitelighter-i love this site as i can learn lots.just had a pm saying that globalats were closing down at shoreham airport so i am even more confused///help???

[Crazy Voyager]

An APC is "Assesment of Prior Competence" and is done if your student rating lapses before you start unit training. It is usually a short course (2 days or so I think) in the sim to check that you still remember the stuff you need to train.

If he has the chance to go with NATS though why not go for that, they will pay you to train, which is a lot cheaper than paying to do it (and then have to hunt for a job). It might be slow but still seems a much better option to me...

[261_p]

You're wrong about having 2 years to start training at a unit. I wish that was the case!!
You have 9 months to start a unit UTP from the date of finishing a student rating course, If you dont mange this then a APC is required (a minimum of 3 days btw). The student licence is valid for 2 years but you can apply to the caa for an extension on this if youve done APC's etc.

[YouSaidBolt]

Where does it say that it is a minimum of 3 days?????????????????

[261_p]

I dont know the source of that but as im about to do an APC, both colleges in the uk have told me the CAA mandate a minmum of 3 days for an APC testing....

[YouSaidBolt]

Digging around I can see that only globalats have a minimum of 3 days set for anyone to do aapc so not sure about the data you provide if i am honest.has anyone ever failed a apc????????????

[Squawk 7500]

Is your keyboard broken? Or are you intentionally using all those question marks?

[Slylo Green]

I had to do an APC about 4 years ago and it took two and half days. Basically they run for as long as you are comfortable with controlling again, a verbal and then an assessed practical. And that's it, you have another 6 months to start UTP.

[Slylo Green]

I wish you could 'like' posts, Squawk 750.

[HEATHROW DIRECTOR]

YSB. Your friend needs to mug up on the Air Traffic Controllers licence and the best references in the UK are here:

Becoming an Air Traffic Controller | Air Traffic Personnel | Personal Licences and Training (http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=2339&pageid=13343)

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP744.PDF

[YouSaidBolt]

Results in from all three atc schools in GB on apc test
NATS person (HR) didn't know - but PM to me says as required
Global ATS - say min 3 days to be billed (funny that)
Resource Group no minimum as described by S7500

No more question marks sorry to offend you just trying to help my friend out

[YouSaidBolt]

Thanks Mr HD for those links.he is mugging up as you suggest :ok:

nothing there about minimum time for an apc and i am told that the period is now NINE months. is that cap744 out of date?

[Glamdring]

I'm doing an ADI APC in March. Booked in for 4 days.

[chevvron]

Wasn't there a plan for an ATC College at Shoreham at one time?

[ZOOKER]

Wasn't ASTAC there until fairly recently?

[YouSaidBolt]

Not sure about astac but it is confirmed that global ats are closing in sussex so not sure if that will affect there other training that they do in the west midlands of england.your thoughts about keeping money in the bank their are now very wise words

[TecKnow]

Global ATS is closing its Shoreham training facility in the middle of this year.

All courses scheduled to be held there are now going to be conducted at their other UK training centre based at Gloucester Airport - EGBJ.

The Gloucester facility underwent substantial development work during December last year to accommodate this which included 3 new classrooms; an extension to the student common room; a dedicated multi-cultural religious room; and additional toilets.

[ATCO91]

GlobalATS is ASTAC's rebrand. The college in Shoreham has always been for ICAO training only. The college based at Gloucester deals with all UK licence's (except obviously area control). I heard a rumour about plans to combine the colleges and move the entire operation to Gloucester, but with Shoreham only being moments away from Heathrow and Gatwick (in comparison to Gloucester) this would seem like a bit of a daft move when it comes to appeasing to foreign customers.

[YouSaidBolt]

GLO-LHR = 1hr 44
SHOREHAM-LHR = 1 hr 15

As you say, moments away......:D

[Cripes]

I was going to offer advice but is there any chance your friend could post on here? You appear to be a bit of an idiot.

[2 sheds]

ATCO91

Why did you post that nonsense when TecKnow has already posted the FACTS?

2 s

[sambatc]

2 sheds - tecknow's post wasn't live until at least 5pm yesterday, due to it being his first post.

ATCO91 made their post without having seen tecknow's first

[YouSaidBolt]

Cripes are you always this abusive to someone asking questions.?my friend was nervous about asking a question and you have just proved his point and he is now holding on tohis money.thanks for the info tecknow....what are the other substantial changes?have they finally got a big screen sim?????