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johns7022
8th Dec 2010, 19:32
Educate me.
Look in the Tech Forum, this is a common subject.
Mutt
SNS3Guppy
10th Dec 2010, 10:13
Educate me.
Not really possible in your case, I'm afraid.
johns7022
10th Dec 2010, 20:59
Guppy you live in a world of internet forums...where the ability to hide, the tempo, perfectly suits your style of banter...in an airport lounge...you can't run away...you would have to sit there and answer the question right in front of the line guys, other pilots...and using the Socratic method...I, you, and everyone else would quickly and positively come to the inevitable conclusion about your aviation knowledge.
This thread is about De Rated departures...your certainly welcome to take the bait and explain to everyone why you would put 200 passengers father down the runway in order to save some money on engine overhauls..
Come on Mr. Expert...explain the logic of this.
galaxy flyer
10th Dec 2010, 23:04
It is not De Rated, it's derate. As in, an alternative thrust rating. Lots of good reasons--better runway performance thru reduced Vmcg, for one. But, you don't understand performance, are not willing to learn; I'll stop here and let you use SEARCH
GF
johns7022
11th Dec 2010, 01:38
Galaxy..if I want to call it a de-rated thrust departure, assumed thrust departure, and reduced power departure, or a 'I am a robot who just doesn't want to lose his job departure'
It's all the same...now stop dancing around the subject, stop evading...bring all that aeronautical expertise and show me why these types of ops make sense to you guys.
Lord Spandex Masher
11th Dec 2010, 01:42
Well actually there is a big difference between derated and flex (assumed temperature).
Lord Spandex Masher
11th Dec 2010, 01:53
Do I hear the sound of furious googling?
galaxy flyer
11th Dec 2010, 01:58
Well, johns7022,SinglePilotCaptain, ssg, or whatever name you want to go by, do you understand the role Vmcg plays in take-off performance? There is a huge difference between derate and reduced power, I'd suggest doing some searching, first.
GF
johns7022
11th Dec 2010, 02:15
Well I am still waiting.....everyone run off?...where are all the experts to discuss this topic?
Just dodging? Just parries? Calling the mods to get me kicked off?
Little girls.....
galaxy flyer
11th Dec 2010, 02:40
Use the SEARCH function, first.
johns7022
11th Dec 2010, 04:13
Galaxy....again another impressive post, that really sums up in its simplicity.....a solid picture of your aviation knowledge.
Brian Abraham
11th Dec 2010, 04:46
G'day yar dill. You could start by reading the thread you started in your ssg guise.
http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/327326-flex-de-rated-take-offs-safe.html
Mods, I think you could close this one. Plowing an old paddock an all that.
johns7022
12th Dec 2010, 00:38
No don't close the thread..Brian is going to elaborate on Assumed thrust departures...two days and he hasn't said anything...we are waiting Brian?
To much Fosters today?
galaxy flyer
12th Dec 2010, 01:23
Johns7022
Do us all a favor and review the linked thread above...it pretty clearly shows everyone just how ignorant of basic performance and certification you are. I reviewed it, was reminded of a few things from experts and how supercilious you are.
GF
Brian Abraham
12th Dec 2010, 02:02
Brian is going to elaborate on Assumed thrust departuresNo I ain't because it's not a subject I know anything about. I leave that to the guys who know what they are talking about, such as BOAC, 411A, Old Smokey, galaxy flyer, John Tullamarine, among others.
I'll just call you out on any of your crap that I know to be bull****e.
galaxy flyer
12th Dec 2010, 02:19
Your diligence to the truth is admired, but this could be a never-ending task.
GF :ugh:
john_tullamarine
12th Dec 2010, 18:59
We can probably, with some benefit, retire this thread at this stage.