Security in your unit

[ip_glider]

Hi there!

With all the hype in the media security is a topic in talks among colleagues. I´m a bit concerned that security at our unit (I won´t reveal it here, but it´s not protected being inside airport perimeters) is not good enough.

-Is it possible to bring backpacks into your Ops room, be it as staff or as a visitor?

-Do you have "staff" in your Ops room who have no training to speak of, who come and go on a weekly basis? It makes it kind of hard to identify people who don´t belong into the room.

-Is it possible to enter your Ops room with a fake or stolen ID-card?

-Do you have fallback plans should there be a catastrophic failure of your unit?

If you don´t want to post in public you can contact me by PM. Thanks for your inputs!

[nats]

Congratulations for probably the most implausible and worst first post that I have read in the ATC section.

[LXGB]

Nobody is going to disclose security procedures on here.

You really need to take this up with your own unit or national security people.

[Talla Radar]

You seriously expect people to talk about their unit's security on an open forum to someone they don't know? I think not.....

[Ceannairceach]

We all are armed to the teeth in our ops room and the perimeter is patrolled by starved, and quite frankly bloody annoyed, crocodiles.

[Bushfiva]

You really need to take this up with your own unit or national security people

Or newspaper editor.

[Lon More]

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[divingduck]

c'mon guys...don't be too harsh, he has probably just only graduated journalist school and looking for a "scoop":ugh:

[throw a dyce]

I remember one guy got a tin of bake beans confiscated by Gate Security.Brings a whole new meaning to explosive device.:p

[Spitoon]

Awww, come on guys, give the OP a break. He's asked some questions which obviously concern him and he deserves some answers to those questions.

So, taking each one in turn...

-Is it possible to bring backpacks into your Ops room, be it as staff or as a visit

Yes, of course. After the security people have scanned them, done a manual search and removed anything dangerous...like your sandwiches. The ones that frighten me are bringing in black football-shaped things with BOMB written on the side.

-Do you have "staff" in your Ops room who have no training to speak of, who come and go on a weekly basis? It makes it kind of hard to identify people who don´t belong into the room.

You mean the management?????

-Is it possible to enter your Ops room with a fake or stolen ID-card?

I guess so - but you'd need a real one too.

-Do you have fallback plans should there be a catastrophic failure of your unit?

I think a week or two in the Seychelles should do it.

I hope this helps with your article.

[Russell Kaymer]

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[BrATCO]

ip_glider,
If you're a journalist, you may stop reading this now.:suspect:

If you're a terrorist, you could be interested in this :
To enter my ACC, you just have to dial "6412859" on the keypad beside the door. (I remember it easily as this is also my credit-card code):ok:

Once inside, you can walk around naked if you wish, no-one will notice.:cool:

And don't shout it too loud : the automatic door has been unserviceable for 3 years now, so the door stays open 24h...

[PeltonLevel]

Is it possible to enter your Ops room with a fake or stolen ID-card?One of my friends got to enjoy a day of the Metropolitan Police's hospitality in the cells at West Drayton police station after another colleague tampered with his LATCC ID card! (A joke which rather misfired. Not a sackable offence, but the withdrawal of the pass was threatened.)

[Moldiold2]

P.L. you probably also remember the time a colleague of ours - who enjoyed dressing up and playing cowboys and indians at weekends - decided to bring his replica six shooter on site during the height of an IRA alert. He too had a deep and meaningful with the MOD Plods for several hours!!:E

[PhiltheReaper]

Such procedures are interesting to me. I have worked in central government. I won't disclose which department, needless to say security is a high priority.

Security Vetting is a must for anyone working in the building, and I presume it is the same for ATC buildings. As a result, "we" have been CTC cleared (and in the case of the government work definitely more on top of that). We could enter and exit with whatever we liked. Only un-vetted people and visitors are checked upon arrival. In that case, it is very thorough.

I do not understand why Security is made a big thing of in the media. They are a set of simple and easy to follow guidelines. The more you follow, the safer your information / premises from theft of unauthorised incursion.

Frankly, ID cards made by a serious and security concious organisation should be difficult to forge. Best of luck destroying your undisclosed ATC building, but sadly your high explosives, thick accent, henchman look with sports bag, might be a give-away to the security ;)

Phil

[GAPSTER]

Apart from the high explosives you've fairly accurately described about 90% of the ATC staff here....blokes included:E

[PhiltheReaper]

I'll have to remember to take the 2 day stubble look to my interview then!

:P

Phil