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SPEEDBIRD5FP
3rd Jan 2002, 17:19
Is anybody in the same situation as me, where they gave in and applied, paid £50, but as yet have no confirmation by email.
I applied about 2 weeks before Christmas.

RVR800
3rd Jan 2002, 17:55
Ryanair had a job on their site for an HR person recently.

Although strangely there was no £50.00 fee for these applicants.

Could this be due to the huge cost burden associated with the volume processing of 'troublesome' pilots as opposed to the trifling numbers of human resource officer
applicants?

Maybe if a pilot applicant requires a reply for his/her £50 does she/he have to pay more?

I think we should be told..

Sir Kitt Braker
3rd Jan 2002, 18:00
I understand that since the introduction of the charge - more than 95% of the applicants are appropriately qualified, as opposed to less than 25% before the charge.
Seems like a sensible move to me!

Mr.Benn
3rd Jan 2002, 22:04
I applied about a week before xmas, but my credit card statement for December has yet to show Ryan taking any money. I don't know what to do now. If I get in touch through the on-line application, I stand to lose £100! Anyone with any ideas?

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As if by magic the shop keeper appeared!

Flintstone
3rd Jan 2002, 22:09
I think the idea is very poor form indeed.

What next? Charge the cost of running an interview? Paying for the sim ride?

(And, no. I'm not a bitter and twisted unsuccessful candidate).

jotpilot
3rd Jan 2002, 22:24
'Our selection process involves a review of applications received via our on-line database followed by an interview and Simulator Assessment. There will be a processing fee for both interview and simulator assessment of STG£50 and STG£150 respectively'.

So, it's not next, it's now.
I am 737 rated, and recently unemployed. Am I going to apply? Dunno. Do I want to work for such a leech of a company? No, but desperate times...

Flintstone
3rd Jan 2002, 22:28
Wow! I'm a prophet!

Wish I could make one <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

fantom
3rd Jan 2002, 22:37
gosh! how times change. we used to refund our applicants' cost of travel to the interview. <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

piper737
4th Jan 2002, 02:38
When I find a real job elsewhere,can I have a refund via my VISA bank-account?

Dutchie
4th Jan 2002, 12:07
The good thing about the 50 pound charge is that it makes it easier for the real applicants to come through. I know that easyjet had wasted a lot of time with Kl and HV pilots who answered to their ads in the Netherlands but who pulled out as late as after the sim check.... With the charge these guys leave the room and real applicants get on board faster..

Mr.Benn
4th Jan 2002, 16:40
What I want to know is, did Ryan get my application ok? I don't like paying £50, but I fully understand why they charge. I'm B737 rated, just what they must be looking for I hope, but I still don't know if my application went through the system, got lost or is being processed. Any ideas out there?

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As if by magic my P45 arrived!

MEVERTSGB
4th Jan 2002, 20:53
Mr. Benn

If FR haven't replied within a 'reasonable' period of time after their charge appears on your card statement, you are entitled to ask your card issuer for a refund. The definition of 'reasonable time' varies from card issuer to card issuer. Internet payments are classed as CNP transactions (Cardholder Not Present). So, if you don't get what you've paid for you, are entitled to a refund from the credit card issuer, who in turn will simply charge the amount back to FR. So don't get mad, get even, get a refund
:) :) :)

schwabn
4th Jan 2002, 21:49
It seems that all you lot who haven't yet had a reply, have missed out bits of the form stating your e-mail address. It clearly says that all communication will be done electronically, so just check if you have sent in ALL details to make sure.

Mr.Benn
4th Jan 2002, 22:55
I'm almost certain I included my e-mail address in the application. In these times of modern computer communications, leaving out such a vital bit of info is rather like shooting ones self in the foot, when job hunting! If anyone has a useful e-mail contact with Ryan, please send it to my e-mail address shown on my profile. Many thanks, Mr.Benn.

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As if by magic £50 was spent!

737man
4th Jan 2002, 23:45
They certainly want the money- I had a call from the famous Declan whilst on holiday in the Antipodes. Got all excited thinking that maybe they were going to offer me a job (meet all the requirements for a DE Captain)-- all he wanted was to confirm the expiry date on my Visa card to make sure he got paid!! Nothing since other than newsletters!

Dutchman
5th Jan 2002, 00:31
How many people have actually been asked to come along for an interview after paying the 50 quid for application ?

SPEEDBIRD5FP
5th Jan 2002, 20:12
Mr Benn,
I feel exactly the same, Im am completely sure that i included my e mail address, but so far heard nothing, fair enough i might be low hours, with 0 jet time, but i thought a reply would at least be courteous

NO AUTOLAND
5th Jan 2002, 22:02
The same applies to me: absolutely sure I included my e-mail-address in the application but, unfortunately, also no reply so far. I applied two months ago. There must be another reason for us not having received a reply, but hopefully it's only an insignificant reason.

Cakov
8th Jan 2002, 20:55
You would have thought that if you pay for a service with credit card over the internet, the service provider would be legally obliged to provide you with some form of receipt. Surely the mere fact that a charge subsequently appears on your statement is not the same thing.

Can anyone shed light on this? Do they legally have to provide you with a receipt?

FL310
8th Jan 2002, 21:21
Any services rendered do require the provider to issue an invoice showing the VAT number etc.....

Twistedfirefighter
8th Jan 2002, 21:52
I too have filled out the form well before xmas but haven't been charged the £50 yet.
I've been in touch with BALPA about this but they are more difficult to get an answer out of, than bloody Ryanair.
I think that if they don't take the money I'll stay away, if they do, I'll demand it back.!!!

It would be interesting to find out just how many people have actually got an interview at all??

Our time will come again I promise us that much!

MAX
9th Jan 2002, 03:11
Why dont we all kitty our money and send an application from 'super pilot'. Super Pilot has thousands of hours and more pic 737 time than you can poke a stick at. He's all that and a bag of chips. For arguments sake lets make him Irish. Me thinks 'super pilot' shall not get a call as he's not 'connected'. HINT HINT. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

MAX <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

Flying M
9th Jan 2002, 04:32
I sent my application just after they deleted the old database. It took just over three weeks before I received my confirmation and a withdrawal from my bankaccount. Got an interview and a simtest. Now, I“ve started a new job. Guess where.! Want to add that I was 737 rated.
Good luck to ya all.

mach78
9th Jan 2002, 16:14
Guess where?

SWEDEN?

Stall4All
10th Jan 2002, 03:45
Well guys guess I am very lucky. I also paid 50 pds for the application only to be called about 8 days later if I would be interested in a sim session 5 days later.
As I had a flightsafety course with my present airline I wasn't able to make it. The gentleman on the phone sounded irritated that I wasn't willing to cancel it for my proposed sim session with Ryan. Prosponing the simcheck wasn't possible.

Well sorry I am not the type who ****s over his present employer when changing jobs. I would imagine Ryan would appreciate a little professional courtesy and good conduct of a future employee to his airline. I guess not!!:-(

Well as I found out later the pay for F/O's sucks anyways. But still would have liked to give Ryan a GO;-)

By the way I am typerated 737, had been flying 737-700. Now flying the 400 and 800.
And have "only" 400 hrs on type and 800TT.

Good luck guys.

Grtz Stall