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The Guvnor
3rd Sep 2001, 11:17
There aree rumours that the A380 may have similar weight/range problems to the MD11 ... this from atwonline.com:

Airbus last week denied a report that it is struggling to lighten the A380 by up to
25 tonnes to meet the requirements of its future customers.

The report, which appeared on the website of French magazine Air & Cosmos, claimed that the A380's top engineers were called back from their holidays for an emergency meeting to find ways to reduce the plane's weight by 20-25 tonnes. "There was no emergency meeting and it's a lot less than 20 tonnes overweight," reacted an Airbus spokesperson, adding, "We will take the measures necessary to meet the customers' requirements." The A380 became heavier than initially planned when Airbus asked engine manufacturers GE-Pratt & Whitney Engine Alliance and Rolls-Royce to increase the diameter of the fans at the front of each engine to 116 in. in order to meet tougher noise regulations.

Notso Fantastic
3rd Sep 2001, 11:31
There you are again, 'Loudmouth' strikes again! 3 posts initiated by dear little 'Opinion on everything in aviation, especially pilot salaries' on page 1 of R&N, plus numerous opinions on everything else in almost every other thread. We do look forward to your 3000th. opinion on anything else you can think of! Why don't you go get your own server and run your own 'I shall tell you my opinion on everything, especially failed management and failed airline start-ups Forum'? This is a Pilots forum. You are a loud, overstaying and rather rude (and definitely unwelcome)guest. Go off and live a life, you really present a most sad image. And who cares if the A380 may or not be overweight- they haven't even built one of the damn things yet! Go worry about yourself!

Tigereye
3rd Sep 2001, 11:40
I don't think anyone give a monkey, weather the A380 is overweight http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/monksit.gif

Kerosene Kraut
3rd Sep 2001, 12:05
Seems to be quite typical that an a/c gets a little overweight during final development. No need to worry about. Especially as the A380 is the smallest member of a family intended for significant further growth on later models.

(typo)

[ 03 September 2001: Message edited by: Kerosene Kraut ]

N380UA
3rd Sep 2001, 12:15
Well, the A380 will come and it will be a success!
As it is right now in the developing stage, these rather insignificant little problems will of course occur as it did with any other aircraft ever build. Whatever Airbus must do to meet the specs will done, no doubt.
Surely interesting that it might have some weight difficulties right now, but it most certainly will not endanger the program nor do I think that the engineers were recalled on a emergency "please make it fly" kind of a thing.

The Guvnor
3rd Sep 2001, 12:18
Notso Fantastic - dear boy! I was worrying about you as I hadn't seen your cyber-stalking presence for a few days - thought you might have taken your own advice there for a moment! :D :rolleyes: :D

Tigereye - you don't think so? Remember SQ and the MD11? BTW, what is that monkey doing? :eek: :D

Kerosene Kraut - so how big does Airbus think they can grow this family of aircraft to, then? 1,000+ pax? Whilst that would certainly help cut down air traffic, I'd be very concerned about the airport infrastructure requirements - and imagine the outcry if a fully laden one goes down.

160to4DME
3rd Sep 2001, 12:34
Notso Fantastic, I wonder who has more of a life; someone who actually posts news on the Rumours and News forum, or someone who wastes their time putting down someone else publically, resulting no doubt, in the closure of yet another thread.

Guv, I may disagree with some of your opinions, but keep 'em coming ;)

Kerosene Kraut
3rd Sep 2001, 14:49
Guv, many airports are ready for 380s even today. Not that much of a change. Most likely mods on taxi-turns, ground pressure and of course check-in facilities. 1000-Pax quite likely to be expected later. Still relatively small span.

JPJ
3rd Sep 2001, 15:41
Why is everyone so touchy? This is a rumour network - so somebody posts an interesting (and potentially true rumour) and is roundly slagged off for it.

Lighten up men!