JAT Airways B737 overrun at Istanbul 4 Oct 2009

[Super VC-10]

Apparently a JAT Airways 737-300 has overrun the runway on landing at Istanbul.

Plane skids off runway at Istanbul airport - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review (http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=1004141522691-2009-10-04)

[Jetset320]

Hope this has nothing to do with last week's events........They had suspended flying on 30th September after a dispute with their maintainace company.

Serbia's JAT Airways flights grounded - News (http://www.aol.com.au/news/story/Serbias-JAT-Airways-flights-grounded/2369793/index.html)

[Dani]

This picture cannot be real. A 737 cannot stay on soft ground without sinking. I don't see any traces, no signs of dirt anywhere. This is a fake for sure.

Dani

[Dani]

uh, I see, it stands on the engines. I'm probably wrong.

[gravity enemy]

At least it looks like the flaps didn't contact.

[HEALY]

Doesnt look like the spoilers extended either????

[levantes]

Spoilers are down, Flaps fully extented as part of the Evacuation Checklist!!

[BOAC]

Healy - have you noticed he also tried to land with the front passenger and rear service doors open and a set of steps in place?:ugh:

[DILLIGAFF]

No slides deployed, did they all just sit and wait for the steps to arrive?
D

[Paradise Lost]

Looks remarkably like yet another slide off the side (sometimes end) of R/W 06. I'm too lazy to use the search function, but these IST off the runway episodes are extremely frequent!
The reason is almost certainly a long landing (better with a bit of wet!) due to the downslope from either end of 06/24, leading the unwary to land around mid runway.

[Biggles225]

Dani
Another point, it may be grassy but I suspect the ground is rock hard under it!

[338C]

Given the history of incidents experienced on 06/24 the runway it is possible the runways have higher than normal risk factors.
When landing 06 there is often a wind shear at or below 100’ which can unstabilise the approach. The shear often involves a lateral displacement from the centerline that often addressed at the expense of maintaining the correct vertical path.
This runway “falls away” in the touchdown zone area, which often results in additional floating.
Rubber deposits that reduce brake effectiveness significantly contaminate the touchdown areas on both runways.
Some SOP’s require the use of 18/36 when there is any moisture on 06/24. This is sound risk management.
06/24 is not a runway for those pilots that find the challenge of landing within the normal touchdown zone beyond their operational ability.

[BlueVolta]

You prepare the A/C for evacuation anytime that ther is a potential threat, you assess the situation and only then you call for the evacuation.

An evacuation is a risky situation which can lead to injuries, so if the danger is cleared it is much wiser to wait for the stairs and disembark through the doors.

ASs said one of the items of the C/L is to retract the spoilers if not I would not try to go through the overwing hatches.... unless you are a steeple chase specialist. :=

[Locked door]

I remember watching an Afghan Airways A300 (IIRC) sliding off the end of 24, doing a lot of damage to itself and the 18L localiser transmitter.

'Tis not an easy runway to land on, especially at night.

LD

[lederhosen]

This is an airport I visit fairly regularly and almost always land on 06. For such a major airport having 2000 metres landing distance beyond the glideslope is less than typical. But then again it is hardly a short runway and with a standard ILS. Maybe that is part of the problem. If you are going somewhere you expect to be marginal you are more go-around minded. It is food for thought that such an apparently straightforward place causes so many problems.

[housecarl]

338C- Rubber deposits that reduce brake effectiveness significantly contaminate the touchdown areas on both runways.

True.. there is a lot of rubber deposit in both ends of the runway, and if the aircraft is not slowed down before it reaches the deposit in the other end of the wet runway.. you might be in trouble.

This is not the first time this year.. Isn't it time to clean up the runway?

[Flight Detent]

also ASFKAP...

I seem to remember one of the PMs calls on landing refers to speedbrakes up or not up!

So in either case, the speedbrakes should have been deployed during the landing rollout!

Cheers...FD

[SMT Member]

06/24 will be closed, re-surfaced and extended by 250 meters in 2010.

[Thunderbug]

About time too.............

Horrible runway to use.

Short(ish) & wide giving a poor perspective.
Bowl shaped profile with several decades of rubber deposits giving some interesting braking.
Poor runoff areas - usually involving a significant drop.

:ooh:

T'bug