JAT Airways B737 overrun at Istanbul 4 Oct 2009
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hadlow
Age: 60
Posts: 597
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
JAT Airways B737 overrun at Istanbul 4 Oct 2009
Apparently a JAT Airways 737-300 has overrun the runway on landing at Istanbul.
Plane skids off runway at Istanbul airport - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review
Plane skids off runway at Istanbul airport - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review
Last edited by Super VC-10; 4th Oct 2009 at 13:35. Reason: typo
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Malta
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hope this has nothing to do with last week's events........They had suspended flying on 30th September after a dispute with their maintainace company.
Serbia's JAT Airways flights grounded - News
Serbia's JAT Airways flights grounded - News
Last edited by Jetset320; 4th Oct 2009 at 20:39.
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Switzerland, Singapore
Posts: 1,309
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This picture cannot be real. A 737 cannot stay on soft ground without sinking. I don't see any traces, no signs of dirt anywhere. This is a fake for sure.
Dani
Dani
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tween Hurn&Filton
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Oops again!
Looks remarkably like yet another slide off the side (sometimes end) of R/W 06. I'm too lazy to use the search function, but these IST off the runway episodes are extremely frequent!
The reason is almost certainly a long landing (better with a bit of wet!) due to the downslope from either end of 06/24, leading the unwary to land around mid runway.
The reason is almost certainly a long landing (better with a bit of wet!) due to the downslope from either end of 06/24, leading the unwary to land around mid runway.
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Sydney
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
06/24 Risk Factors
Given the history of incidents experienced on 06/24 the runway it is possible the runways have higher than normal risk factors.
When landing 06 there is often a wind shear at or below 100’ which can unstabilise the approach. The shear often involves a lateral displacement from the centerline that often addressed at the expense of maintaining the correct vertical path.
This runway “falls away” in the touchdown zone area, which often results in additional floating.
Rubber deposits that reduce brake effectiveness significantly contaminate the touchdown areas on both runways.
Some SOP’s require the use of 18/36 when there is any moisture on 06/24. This is sound risk management.
06/24 is not a runway for those pilots that find the challenge of landing within the normal touchdown zone beyond their operational ability.
When landing 06 there is often a wind shear at or below 100’ which can unstabilise the approach. The shear often involves a lateral displacement from the centerline that often addressed at the expense of maintaining the correct vertical path.
This runway “falls away” in the touchdown zone area, which often results in additional floating.
Rubber deposits that reduce brake effectiveness significantly contaminate the touchdown areas on both runways.
Some SOP’s require the use of 18/36 when there is any moisture on 06/24. This is sound risk management.
06/24 is not a runway for those pilots that find the challenge of landing within the normal touchdown zone beyond their operational ability.
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: South
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You prepare the A/C for evacuation anytime that ther is a potential threat, you assess the situation and only then you call for the evacuation.
An evacuation is a risky situation which can lead to injuries, so if the danger is cleared it is much wiser to wait for the stairs and disembark through the doors.
ASs said one of the items of the C/L is to retract the spoilers if not I would not try to go through the overwing hatches.... unless you are a steeple chase specialist.
An evacuation is a risky situation which can lead to injuries, so if the danger is cleared it is much wiser to wait for the stairs and disembark through the doors.
ASs said one of the items of the C/L is to retract the spoilers if not I would not try to go through the overwing hatches.... unless you are a steeple chase specialist.
I remember watching an Afghan Airways A300 (IIRC) sliding off the end of 24, doing a lot of damage to itself and the 18L localiser transmitter.
'Tis not an easy runway to land on, especially at night.
LD
'Tis not an easy runway to land on, especially at night.
LD
This is an airport I visit fairly regularly and almost always land on 06. For such a major airport having 2000 metres landing distance beyond the glideslope is less than typical. But then again it is hardly a short runway and with a standard ILS. Maybe that is part of the problem. If you are going somewhere you expect to be marginal you are more go-around minded. It is food for thought that such an apparently straightforward place causes so many problems.
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Europe
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
338C- Rubber deposits that reduce brake effectiveness significantly contaminate the touchdown areas on both runways.
This is not the first time this year.. Isn't it time to clean up the runway?
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 960
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
also ASFKAP...
I seem to remember one of the PMs calls on landing refers to speedbrakes up or not up!
So in either case, the speedbrakes should have been deployed during the landing rollout!
Cheers...FD
I seem to remember one of the PMs calls on landing refers to speedbrakes up or not up!
So in either case, the speedbrakes should have been deployed during the landing rollout!
Cheers...FD
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Farnham, UK
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
About time too.............
Horrible runway to use.
Short(ish) & wide giving a poor perspective.
Bowl shaped profile with several decades of rubber deposits giving some interesting braking.
Poor runoff areas - usually involving a significant drop.
T'bug
Horrible runway to use.
Short(ish) & wide giving a poor perspective.
Bowl shaped profile with several decades of rubber deposits giving some interesting braking.
Poor runoff areas - usually involving a significant drop.
T'bug
