NEI-CSFF B737 and Dried Deicing Fluid

[ratspy]

I looking for photos and reports of CSFF/NEI and Dried Deicing fluid on the B737 for a paper.

Ever had it on a short flight?
Any associated info, wx, fuel load, etc?
Ever on a -300, -500?
Resources?
Rehydration of dried fluid effecting controls in flight?
Photos?
ETC?

PM me.

Thanks
RS

[BOAC]

I have only ever seen 'liquid' de-ice fluid (Type II/IV) on the rear wing sections after 3 hrs plus airborne, never 'dried'.

Not sure what you seek regarding CSFF? Are you linking the 2 queries or are they separate?

[ratspy]

I should have made a seperate thread for each.

Boeing published an article on dried deicing fluid in 2007 but I would like some additional info and photos.

RS

[PT6A]

I have seen type I and type IV on the "quite" areas of the flaps after flight, not much but it was there and dry as a bone - almost like a powder.

PT6

[spannersatKL]

Always lots of it in the areas you can't easily see.....areas like the Elevator and Aileron Balance panels. Usuall dried in to thick gel and needs cleaning out.

[ratspy]

Does your company follow the prescibed cleaning procedures outlined by Boeing?

I think there is still much to be learned about dried deicing fluid and they are collecting data. Do you know of any instances where controls were affected?


Aero article 2007
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_1_07/article_03_3.html[/URL]

I would appreciate any photos of the dry film and especially the rehydrated gel.

RS

[safetypee]

http://www.sae.org/events/icing/presentations/2007s2dyer.pdf
http://www.sae.org/events/icing/presentations/2007s2hille.pdf

http://www.easa.eu.int/ws_prod/c/doc/Safety_Info_Reports/SIN%202008-29%
http://www.easa.eu.int/ws_prod/r/doc/NPA/A-NPA-2007-11.pdf
http://www.easa.eu.int/ws_prod/r/doc/CRD%202007-11.pdf

SAE Aircraft & Engine Icing International Conference: 2007 Session Presentations (http://www.sae.org/events/icing/presentations/2007sessions.htm)

[ratspy]

Safetypee, these were great and I was able to find some additional info from following the links. Thanks. Any chance you have similar sites for CSFF/NEI?

Thanks
RS

[Iceman49]

Any fact based information on recommendation if flaps should be at takeoff config or up during the deicing procedure...seen both ways. Thx.