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fullreverse
12th Apr 2001, 01:31
Can anybody tell me working conditions and salary in canada 3000.

Do you think that I have any chance with them (SAAB 2000/ 1600 TH with 1100 on type)

Do you have any number I can contact.

Thank a lot.

Squawk 8888
12th Apr 2001, 02:25
Don't have any firsthand knowledge but all the staffers I've encountered seemed pretty happy. Mostly B757, A320 & A330, with some B737s from the carriers they just took over. For contact info try their web page at http://www.canada3000.ca

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m&v
12th Apr 2001, 20:52
FullRVS,I think they're, like all the other employers at the moment are looking at 3000hrs or so.The present applicants are so qualified,but eventually this hourly req' will vary..The pay scales are average charter Co',but C3 is in negotiations preparation at the moment.

alapt
12th Apr 2001, 23:52
C3 salaries average??? I do not think so. 42,000 Can. gross for the first year! Seems slightly under paid if you ask me! Oh yes, Captain start salary is only......58,000 if I remember correctly. But as they say, they are in talks right now to come closer to the industry standards. If they manage to get a reasonable increase, you will find that many of us expats would go and fly for them. In the mean time we make much more money abroad.
Good luck

zeide49
14th Apr 2001, 10:18
Majors are looking for 3000hrs minimum with
lots of heavy twin time or jet time. There
are 50 applications for every seat that comes available at the majors. I retired 4 yrs ago
with a major 767-333ER left seat. 180K yr
F/0's make approx 60% of Captain.

doo
15th Apr 2001, 02:23
Look on CanadianAviation.com for questions about C3000

2dad
18th Apr 2001, 04:47
Starting salary for a captain is currently $85,000 on any type, not $58,000. Contract is up for negotiations in November 2001 so hopefully should be higher!

alapt
22nd Apr 2001, 13:14
Sorry for the inversion guys! What do you think C3 pilots will actually get? They were talking of BIG increases, in the order of 20 to 30%!!! Do you think they could get 10 to 15%? That would be a good start don't you think? Has anybody gotten news for course dates later this year?
regards

Squawk 8888
22nd Apr 2001, 22:36
A large raise wouldn't surprise me- they're in the middle of a huge expansion (15 A/C to 50) and takeover, last thing they want now is ill will.

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info4u
27th Apr 2001, 19:21
Hi 2dad!
Guess there is some mistake in your salary figures for C3! The Capt's salary is around $58K not the figure you mention.
Please re-check, Wish to God it was what you have quoted! We are talking Cdn$$-- Right?
Any other news? When are the new recruits scheduled to start their course?
Would appreciate any info.
Thanks.

2dad
27th Apr 2001, 19:57
I have c3 contract in front of me. Starting 1st year captain pay as of Nov 1/2000 is $85,000 Canadian.......this contract expires Oct 31/2000......

I am not sure where you get a $58,000 salary from but that pay is for a Level 3 year FO (approx 2 1/2 years from DOH)

100 pilots in the pool to be hired....hopefully.....the merger may hold things up or may not....who knows in this business

info4u
28th Apr 2001, 08:15
2dad:
I thank you , this will help me to open some poor guys mind and eyes!!
How about those who are recruited or to be this year as F/O (till they get command)?
Those who will have to join as F/O initially, due to the normal practice?
Those with over 17,000 hours in total and over 12,000 on jets?
Will appreciate if I can email you for further info.
Thanks again.

info4u
28th Apr 2001, 08:22
Hi alapt:
Help me out ! You say one figure and yet 2dad has the contract in front of him? What am to think or say?
My queries are very genuine and not to pit one against the other.
Will appreciate your response.
Thanks

2dad
28th Apr 2001, 20:27
My figures are correct....believe me...

Company is unionized with ALPA and normal seniority rules. Therefore, as you would be aware, when hired, no matter how much time you have, you are bottom of list and start as F/O. If you are typed on any of C3's aircraft you would probably be assigned to that particular plane but not always so.

info4u
29th Apr 2001, 04:30
Hi 2dad:
Thanks again, really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Guess you are a C3 guy??
Will touch base soon.

info4u
29th Apr 2001, 04:44
Hi dad2:
My email add:-

[email protected]

Would like you to email me, so I can chat in privacy.
Thanks

Jabewar
29th Apr 2001, 22:40
C3 may do more interviews come early summer. The last ones hired are being given courese dates this summer and selected according to experience for future command.

2dad
30th Apr 2001, 05:07
Info4u:

I sent you an email. So feel free to ask away...

2dad

doo
1st May 2001, 22:50
Has C3 sorted out the new pay deal yet?

2dad
4th May 2001, 07:36
Can't sort out the pay until the negotiation ballet starts. Contract expires Oct 31/2001 and they are still have to straighten out all the merger seniority issues......interesting times

doo
5th May 2001, 19:00
So who will be the winners, the Royal/Canjet/or C3 guys?

jeff748
12th May 2001, 04:24
Hey, we ALL win!!!