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28th Mar 2001, 17:20
I will be flying my last ever weather research sortie for MRF tomorrow (29/03/01). http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif
I will be flying back home from a very successful overseas trip, and on the way I will be making a low pass over my old home of Farnborough. :)

I would like to take this chance to say a big thank you to all in the industry who have helped me and my scientists over the past 28 years. I know I have got in your way, and asked to do all sorts of strange things at very short notice. You have always gone out of your way to help the METMAN. Thank You. :)

My scientists tell me my work has helped to vastly improve our knowledge of weather and climate, and on the way, provided information and knowledge that has helped flight safety.

To all out there I have come into contact with
Thank you and from METMAN
Good bye http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

28th Mar 2001, 17:28
I remember meeting you when I was a very young air cadet. Always wanted to come on one of your trips.

Any Idea of your ETA in Farnboroughs' overhead, as I will be standing outside my office looking up if I know your estimate.

all the best and thankyou,


29th Mar 2001, 10:52
ETA Farn & base when I have them. Watch this space.

29th Mar 2001, 11:22
Best guestimate:
EGLF 1430Z
EGDM 1500Z
Depends on what headwinds I find on my trip back down south.

29th Mar 2001, 15:03
I am fighting against stronger than forecast headwinds. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif
ETA EGLF now 1540z EGDM 1600z. For final fly pasts of past and present home. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

Once again to all out there who have flown, fixed, guided and helped me over the years, thank you! :)

No more will the METMAN call sign send puzzled looks across the air waves, of why do they want to do that?!?!? http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/eek.gif http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/confused.gif


Lew Ton
30th Mar 2001, 00:22
This is a real shame. What is to happen to the aeroplane? http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif It was nice to see it at RIAT last year.

(Edited for proper English!]

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30th Mar 2001, 00:54
sad to see you go snoopy

I first saw you at Cambridge at Marshalls
when I was a spotty cadet,
I had the pleasure of doing some design work for some of your equipment upgrade fits through a DTEO contract,
interesting days,

hope they keep you somewhere safe,

bye bye

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30th Mar 2001, 01:47
XV208, are your initials, per chance, H.B.
If so, did you once do an exchange tour with the USAF on C141s. If so, we once met and had a good laugh and a few beers, way back in 1988-89. E-mail me and we'll do it again, if you like.

30th Mar 2001, 16:22
No H.B. left the unit to return to flying more usual Hercs some time ago. As far as I know, he is flying Albert in the States at this time.

Old Timer, I think they plan to keep me in the hanger for a while, although not sure what plans are for me in the long run. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

14116 hours on the clock, still fresh out of the box!

Experimentum In Nubibus

1st Apr 2001, 14:28
It would be criminal to scrap snoopy,
like you say, fresh out of the box,
I hope they find a good use for her
(him ?) or at least preserve her at somewhere like Duxford for example,
it would be far better to keep her flying where she belongs,

how about the crew ?
any good options for other missions ?

good luck folks,

So much sky,
so little time :-(

9th Apr 2001, 16:52
Snoopy returns!!! (Sort of)

The Met Office have announced that research flights will recommence in July 2002.

They will be using an upgraded 146-300 which will be based at Woodford near Manchester.

The performance will be uprated to allow climb to altitudes necessary for Met research.

The Met Office will have 50% access to the flights with the remainder used by universities.

Many thanks to Mrs cossack for the info.

9th Apr 2001, 17:05
To mark the end of Met Research Flight use of Snoopy, we held a reunion of past and present science, ground and air crews on Friday. Over 200 people made it, despite us not being allowed to widely advertise the event.
To all that came along to see me off.

Heard over the intercom after 6 hours around 85'N, flying at 200 ft over the Polar Ice cap 2 weeks ago. "Bet You Cant Do this in a 146! Still 4 hours of the sortie to go!" http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif

Thank You all who made it :)

1 of many
11th Apr 2001, 12:04
I worked on Snoopy, before it WAS Snoopy at Colerne, when it was painted Crud and Custard.

Sad to see it go, it WAS one of the more noticeable Hercs, couldn't exactly miss it could you?

Take care and have a well-earned rest even if only in the minds of them that flew you.

All the guys that belonged to Met Flight, that I knew, thoroughly enjoyed it!


11th Apr 2001, 13:35
One of many,
were you at the do on Friday, or had you even heard it was going on? We had to keep it quiet to protect delicate and sensitive nerves in DERA and the Met Office. Very embarrassing losing Snoopy when climate change and the Kyoto agreement is back in the news, and questions are being asked in the House. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

I think if you look back far enough on this forum or the Military one, you will find details of the event, and contact details if you want more information on last Fridays events.

Experimentum In Nubibus

11th Apr 2001, 15:51
Why are you being retired?
It seems that with all that is going on in the enviroment, that you should be busier than ever.

Write to your MP..............

11th Apr 2001, 17:10
You are indeed correct.
We have never had as many enquieries from UK government and university departments, and requests from the govenments and research organisations in other countries. There is funding via the EU and other such bodies. So why were we chopped?
One word
http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/confused.gif
All highly embarasing for the powers that be. That is why news of my final working flight, and fly pasts at Farnborough and Boscombe were kept quiet, and NO ONE was allowed to mention it to the press in case news leaked! :mad:

The so called replacement for me has not got the range or duration I have, but I gave it a marginal advantage on height, on a good day with not too much kit on! As for cost, once you take out the 13 million and 2 years to get it converted, the operating costs still favour me, now the bean counters in DERA or should that be QinetiQ have sorted their act out :mad:

Still never know, I may still end up in exotic parts, dragging the support equipment out to support the universities new toy. No ramp on a 146 to put all the support pack up on! :grin: I'll probably get there before them as well, longer range and duration you see!

Another British best in the world, thrown away! What is next to go? :mad:

Experimentum In Nubibus

12th Apr 2001, 00:33
Lets start a 'save snoopy' campaign...

damn silly to retire her...
no chnace of an E.U rescue plan I suppose ?
or is that THE problem ?
(i.e. Brussels interference ?)

good luck chaps & chappesses,

So much sky,
so little time :-(

12th Apr 2001, 11:18
EU for once NOT the problem. In fact the opposite. They are one of my larger customers!
Trouble is under the present rules they have no money to run me. Only money to fund individual projects and experiments. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif Although there may be money to support an aircraft that can do exactley what I can do in a few years time, by which time DERA or QinetiQ will probably put a JCB through my main spar http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

Experimentum In Nubibus

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