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Joshwilson10
28th Nov 2007, 17:39
Can anyone clarify the exact requirements of flying from an undesignated airfield in the UK to another undesignated airfield outside the UK (Isle of Man). I'm aware of the requirements to submit a Flight Plan and GAR to Manchester and IOM Police but what exactly do I need to have present on the aircraft? Just making sure...wouldn't like to get there and have overlooked something.

Thanks in advance

gcolyer
28th Nov 2007, 18:00
You will need to submit a special branch form to special branch in Manchester and IOM. You will also need to submit an ICAO flight.

It does not matter if it is undesignated. On the ICAO form put the destination airfield as ZZZZ.

I take it you are going to Andreas.

Joshwilson10
28th Nov 2007, 18:10
yes...will go from sherburn to andreas. Have you been to andreas before? What the runway surface like? What docs to I need to carry on the A/C?

GARDENER
28th Nov 2007, 19:08
Don't forget your lifejackets etc!

Joshwilson10
28th Nov 2007, 19:10
cheers! would have to be having a bad day to make that mistake.

gcolyer
28th Nov 2007, 19:46
I am semi based at Andreas.

The runways are pretty stoney. I am fairly sure you will end up using 11/29. If so stay to the north side of the runway and you will avoid most of the stone patches. Bothe runways are about 1200meters.

Try to make all circuits northerly (away from Snaefell) as you will get some pretty ****y mountain waves on a windy day.

It is also fairly safe to ignore the tafs/metars for Ronaldsway. I have only once in 5 years not been able to get in to andreas due to weather. If Ronalds way forecast fog or broken at 200 I would be 95% sure that Andreas is clear enough to sneak in at 700ft or more.

tangovictor
28th Nov 2007, 21:53
from an undesignated airfield in the UK to another undesignated airfield outside the UK (Isle of Man).

I always thought that the IOM was part of the UK, along with N.I

DaveW
28th Nov 2007, 22:00
NI is. ("United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".)

IOM isn't (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_man).

The island is not part of the United Kingdom, but external relations, defence, and ultimate good-governance of the Isle of Man are the responsibility of the government of the UK.

tangovictor
28th Nov 2007, 22:10
I learn something every day, maybe with luck England will opt out also

jabberwok
29th Nov 2007, 17:27
Airfield plate (large version) at Andreas.gif (http://homepages.mcb.net/bones/WebPix/Andreas_L.gif)
http://homepages.mcb.net/bones/WebPix/Andreas.gif
Data may not be current so check with the airfield.

Joshwilson10
30th Nov 2007, 18:10
does anyoe know if they have any fuel available? don't the club have Auster that they operate?

Cheers

gcolyer
30th Nov 2007, 18:57
I can get you sorted for 100LL. PM me you details.

Joshwilson10
30th Nov 2007, 22:45
ok thanks will PM you closer to time