low n' slow
11th Aug 2007, 12:31
Here's one for all of you ATCO's.
I've been puzzled sometimes by the radar service provided in Bergen, Norway. On quite a few occasions I've been vectored on to the ILS (or so their ATC claims) with a final intercept of 80 degrees. This is to me an unacceptable sercive. It's not vectored and it's not a full procedure. But is it something to report? It's not directly dangerous, in most cases we manage to pick the LOC, but on more than one occasion, we've had to go missed because of the steep intercept (unable to get established). Trying to catch it from that heading requires us to really slow down and also "steal a couple of degrees on the heading" which isn't the way to do it if you like to go by the book. It's unacceptable and I'd like to comunicate this to the ATCO in question, but I don't want to do it on frequency. Which report should I file or do you have any other suggestions?
Also, into Molde, we are in contact with Bodö for quite some time. Then we go over to Kvernberget TWR for a very short period. We would like to get the inbound clearance from Bodö to enable us to prepare for the approach and to set everything up before we head down. The terrain is quite high there so we don't want to be fiddling about with briefings and nav set ups when closing in on rising terrain. It's allways the same and the result is allways quite a high workload late in the approach. When asking Bodö for an inbound clearance the reply is quite often "you'll get it from KVB TWR in about 10 minutes...". How shall I report this? It's not an immediate safety matter, but we'd like to communicate this to them in a professional manner. How would you do it?
Regards/LnS
I've been puzzled sometimes by the radar service provided in Bergen, Norway. On quite a few occasions I've been vectored on to the ILS (or so their ATC claims) with a final intercept of 80 degrees. This is to me an unacceptable sercive. It's not vectored and it's not a full procedure. But is it something to report? It's not directly dangerous, in most cases we manage to pick the LOC, but on more than one occasion, we've had to go missed because of the steep intercept (unable to get established). Trying to catch it from that heading requires us to really slow down and also "steal a couple of degrees on the heading" which isn't the way to do it if you like to go by the book. It's unacceptable and I'd like to comunicate this to the ATCO in question, but I don't want to do it on frequency. Which report should I file or do you have any other suggestions?
Also, into Molde, we are in contact with Bodö for quite some time. Then we go over to Kvernberget TWR for a very short period. We would like to get the inbound clearance from Bodö to enable us to prepare for the approach and to set everything up before we head down. The terrain is quite high there so we don't want to be fiddling about with briefings and nav set ups when closing in on rising terrain. It's allways the same and the result is allways quite a high workload late in the approach. When asking Bodö for an inbound clearance the reply is quite often "you'll get it from KVB TWR in about 10 minutes...". How shall I report this? It's not an immediate safety matter, but we'd like to communicate this to them in a professional manner. How would you do it?
Regards/LnS