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windriver
28th Jul 2007, 09:40
Why is the abbreviated form of Radiotelephony RTF and not just RT? What does the F stand for?

Rainboe
28th Jul 2007, 12:51
F- 'Fony'?
RT also stands for Route, and Return. Is it a big deal?

windriver
28th Jul 2007, 13:46
Yes it is a very big deal indeed. I stand to win a beer if I find out.

Fony? mmm...I don`t suppose you have a reference for that!!

411A
28th Jul 2007, 15:21
Reference?

Just about any pilot just over sixty....:rolleyes:

The younger ones would have no clue...:E

Rainboe
28th Jul 2007, 15:34
Tried Ask.com and got not very far. I don't think it means much more than Radio-Tele-Fone.

Final 3 Greens
28th Jul 2007, 17:02
Frequency, I imagine.

windriver
28th Jul 2007, 18:03
RTG was the abbreviation for Radio Telegraphy... Maybe the F was introduced in the dim and distant past to distinguish between them..??

NuName
28th Jul 2007, 18:27
Phonetics?:sad:

Spitoon
28th Jul 2007, 19:41
In ICAO terms RTF is an abbreviation rather than an acronym. The ICAO Vocabulary (Doc 9713) entry says
radiotelephony; radiotelephone; RTF
A form of radiocommunication primafib intended for the exchange of information in the form of speech. (An 2, An 11)

windriver
28th Jul 2007, 22:14
An abbreviation and not an acronym I agree... but it doesn`t explain the F?

con-pilot
28th Jul 2007, 23:57
but it doesn`t explain the F?


For Fone, don't ya know nothin? :p:}:p:)



(As God is my witness I swear this is true; when I first moved to Oklahoma City in the Telephone Directory Book [called the "Yellow Pages"] if you looked under "Fone Company" it directed you to Southwestern Bell Telephone Company. Cross my heart and hope to die that is true.)

windriver
29th Jul 2007, 09:45
Yes it's all crystal clear now thanks... it makes ferpect sense.

Presumably then it was the same team of people that that chose LLZ for localiSer. :sad:

Spitoon
29th Jul 2007, 10:57
windriver, you have to be a bit open-minded and think Americanese - LocaLiZer.



And my point about the abbreviation is that, unlike an acronym, the letters don't have to stand for anything. When you see an abbreviation you simply replace it with the full word.

If such things bother you, don't even start to think about the Q-code!!

DB6
30th Jul 2007, 20:18
It's not Frazeology then?:}

galaxy flyer
31st Jul 2007, 18:09
And the McDonnell fighter of the '60s......................the Fantom!! Thats where the F came from.

Keys, Coat,Off to get my fysical

Heading North
6th Aug 2007, 07:05
What about Radio Telephony Frequency? :D