dublinpilot
22nd Sep 2006, 22:20
There are some notams concerning tempory restricted areas around the Ryder Cup which is on in the K Club (just to the west of Dublin, in County Kildare) at the moment.
But the way that the notams have been written ensure that
A) everyone who flys through any part of Ireland gets the notam even if they are going nowhere near the restricted airspace, & more annoyingly
B) completely defeats all graphical notam systems.
The centre of the Notam is put about a hundred miles out into the Atlantic, and the radius given is over 200nm.
Couldn't they just do it the way the system was intended, and only brief those who need to know (rather than try to over load them with info they don't need), and make it easier for those who do need to know to see it on a graphical system? :ugh:
Q)EISN/QPFCA/I/NBO/E/000/999/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1818/06
D)DAILY 0600-1900
E) FLOW CONTROL PROCEDURE ACTIVATED
VFR FLIGHTS EXCEPT RYDER CUP APPROVED FLIGHTS REQUIRE SPECIAL
PERMISSION FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN DUBLIN CTR.
MIN 2 HOUR PRIOR NOTICE TO DUBLIN ATC, TEL +353 1 8144662
Q)EISN/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/030/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1793/06
D)DAILY 0600-1900
E) TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ACTIVATED. AREA 532359.31N 0065023.62W,
532339.36N 0064349.58W, 531436.70N 0063707.33W, 531041.06N
0064856.22W, ARC CENTERED EIME ARP 531810.771N 0062719.4621W RADIUS
15NM, GROUND TO 3000FT AMSL. AREA RESTRICTED TO RYDER CUP
APPROVED OPERATIONS. REF SUP 23/06
F)GND G)3000FT AMSL
Q)EISN/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/030/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1792/06
D)DAILY 0600-1900
E) TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ACTIVATED. AREA 532201.63N 0064236.91W,
532428.1647N 0064425.6747W, 532358.9537N 0063500W, 532104.6705N
0063500W, GROUND TO 3000FT AMSL. AREA RESTRICTED TO RYDER CUP
APPROVED OPERATIONS. REF SUP 23/06
F)GND G)3000FT AMSL
NAVW: Q)EISN/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/030/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1794/06
D)DAILY 0600-1900
E)TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ACTIVATED. AREA 531438.76N 0062541.9900W,
531021.1900N 0063359.0000W, 531436.7000N 0063707.3300W, GROUND TO
3000FT AMSL. AREA RESTRICTED TO RYDER CUP
APPROVED OPERATIONS. REF SUP 23/06
F)GND G)3000FT AMSL
NAVW: Q)EISN/QRRCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1816/06
D)0600-1900
E)EIR15 AND ADJACENT TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREAS ESTABLISHED FOR RYDER
CUP EVENT ACTIVATED. NO ACFT EXCEPT STATE ACFT, IRISH COASTGUARD
ANDACFT WITH RYDER CUP CALLSIGN ROUTING TO AND FROM K CLUB OR
DESGINATEDFEEDER SITES SHALL BE PERMITTED TO ENTER RESTRICTED
AIRSPACE.
REF SUP23/06, NOTAM A1792/06, A1793/06, A1794/06
F)SFC G)UNL
Even parachute jumps near Kerry Airport get the same treatment! Does someone flying from Sligo to Donegal really need to know about a parachute jump in Kerry???
Q)EISN/QWPLW/IV/M/W/000/100/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/23 07:00 TO 06/09/24 19:30 A1878/06
D)DAILY 0700-1930
E) PARACHUTE JUMPING EXERCISES WILL TAKE PLACE, WITH TAKE OFF
FROM KERRY AIRPORT AND DROPS 10NM NORTHWEST AT 5020.5N 0945.6W
(ARDFERT) AT FL100. OPERATING RADIUS 3NM OF ARDFERT.
F)GND G)10000FT AGL
But the way that the notams have been written ensure that
A) everyone who flys through any part of Ireland gets the notam even if they are going nowhere near the restricted airspace, & more annoyingly
B) completely defeats all graphical notam systems.
The centre of the Notam is put about a hundred miles out into the Atlantic, and the radius given is over 200nm.
Couldn't they just do it the way the system was intended, and only brief those who need to know (rather than try to over load them with info they don't need), and make it easier for those who do need to know to see it on a graphical system? :ugh:
Q)EISN/QPFCA/I/NBO/E/000/999/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1818/06
D)DAILY 0600-1900
E) FLOW CONTROL PROCEDURE ACTIVATED
VFR FLIGHTS EXCEPT RYDER CUP APPROVED FLIGHTS REQUIRE SPECIAL
PERMISSION FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN DUBLIN CTR.
MIN 2 HOUR PRIOR NOTICE TO DUBLIN ATC, TEL +353 1 8144662
Q)EISN/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/030/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1793/06
D)DAILY 0600-1900
E) TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ACTIVATED. AREA 532359.31N 0065023.62W,
532339.36N 0064349.58W, 531436.70N 0063707.33W, 531041.06N
0064856.22W, ARC CENTERED EIME ARP 531810.771N 0062719.4621W RADIUS
15NM, GROUND TO 3000FT AMSL. AREA RESTRICTED TO RYDER CUP
APPROVED OPERATIONS. REF SUP 23/06
F)GND G)3000FT AMSL
Q)EISN/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/030/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1792/06
D)DAILY 0600-1900
E) TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ACTIVATED. AREA 532201.63N 0064236.91W,
532428.1647N 0064425.6747W, 532358.9537N 0063500W, 532104.6705N
0063500W, GROUND TO 3000FT AMSL. AREA RESTRICTED TO RYDER CUP
APPROVED OPERATIONS. REF SUP 23/06
F)GND G)3000FT AMSL
NAVW: Q)EISN/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/030/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1794/06
D)DAILY 0600-1900
E)TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ACTIVATED. AREA 531438.76N 0062541.9900W,
531021.1900N 0063359.0000W, 531436.7000N 0063707.3300W, GROUND TO
3000FT AMSL. AREA RESTRICTED TO RYDER CUP
APPROVED OPERATIONS. REF SUP 23/06
F)GND G)3000FT AMSL
NAVW: Q)EISN/QRRCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/18 06:00 TO 06/09/25 19:00 A1816/06
D)0600-1900
E)EIR15 AND ADJACENT TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREAS ESTABLISHED FOR RYDER
CUP EVENT ACTIVATED. NO ACFT EXCEPT STATE ACFT, IRISH COASTGUARD
ANDACFT WITH RYDER CUP CALLSIGN ROUTING TO AND FROM K CLUB OR
DESGINATEDFEEDER SITES SHALL BE PERMITTED TO ENTER RESTRICTED
AIRSPACE.
REF SUP23/06, NOTAM A1792/06, A1793/06, A1794/06
F)SFC G)UNL
Even parachute jumps near Kerry Airport get the same treatment! Does someone flying from Sligo to Donegal really need to know about a parachute jump in Kerry???
Q)EISN/QWPLW/IV/M/W/000/100/5313N01035W213
FROM 06/09/23 07:00 TO 06/09/24 19:30 A1878/06
D)DAILY 0700-1930
E) PARACHUTE JUMPING EXERCISES WILL TAKE PLACE, WITH TAKE OFF
FROM KERRY AIRPORT AND DROPS 10NM NORTHWEST AT 5020.5N 0945.6W
(ARDFERT) AT FL100. OPERATING RADIUS 3NM OF ARDFERT.
F)GND G)10000FT AGL