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Shore Guy
31st Jan 2005, 20:00
Anyone have any more information?

NTSB Identification: DCA05WA020
Nonscheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of ATLAS AIR INC
Incident occurred Sunday, December 12, 2004 in London, United Kingdom
Aircraft: Boeing 747, registration: N523MC
Injuries: 3 Uninjured.

On December 12, 2004, an Atlas cargo Boeing 747 descended well below approach path at about 6nm from Runway 05 at Stansted International Airport, London, United Kingdom. There were no injuries to the three crewmembers or damage to the airplane or other structures. The incident is being investigated by the United Kingdom Air Accident Investigation Branch.

Global Pilot
1st Feb 2005, 03:33
Any one have any more information....

We will get right back to you on this one and as soon as we have something we will post a reply.

best regards,

United Kingdom Air Accident Investigation Branch

1st Feb 2005, 08:16
Bet this makes the TV news tonight or sometime this week. Things like this have a habit of doing so. "Near Miss Drama...."

1st Feb 2005, 08:38
Whats going on @Atlas/Polar?

1. this one
2. RWY-Overrun in NYC
3. RWY-Overrun in DUS

Is this just bad luck or this there a real problem with Crew-Trng etc?

1st Feb 2005, 09:17
Hmmmm,,,,,,maybe a good thing not working for them anymore!:mad:

Captain Airclues
1st Feb 2005, 09:17
Apparently it was going to be an item on the TV evening news on the 15th but then Mr Blunkett resigned and so it was pushed out. Luckily (for Atlas) the tabloids didn't latch on to it.


1st Feb 2005, 13:31
STN radar missed it at the time of the occurrence. I understand it was only brought to light by an unusual number of noise complaints! Looked back at the radar tapes to find it, the crew had kept quiet so not interviewed until a couple of days later. 500ft at 6 miles, maybe they were ex CX!

Final 3 Greens
1st Feb 2005, 17:01
I'm not surprised there were complaints.

This happened almost 5 years to the day since the KAL 74 crashed only about 2 to 3 miles from where this incident must have occured.

I think that the locals have every right to be sensitive.

1st Feb 2005, 17:20
"Stansted Radar missed it at the time of the occurence"

I find that statement quite amazing. They (and Essex Radar) seem to be very able to pick up instantly on an apparent +/-10 knot change in speed or to point out that the latest ATIS is "Lima" when "Kilo" is still being broadcast.

Are you trying to tell me that they failed to spot a B747 about to spear into the ground 6 miles out?

As a Stansted user I find this quite frightening.

1st Feb 2005, 19:22
Incident believed to be under investigation by AAIB, so best to wait for their report.

Buster the Bear
1st Feb 2005, 22:00
Something odd here, transfer this thread to the ATC forum and let the folk likely to have any direct knowledge of this 'incident', comment?

If a 747 came to be 500ft above the ground at 5 miles from touch down, folk in that forum could probably speculate better?