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ghost-rider
5th Mar 2004, 16:16
We're getting reports about Spanish & Greek ATC shutdowns around 1200Z today, in respect of the ZRH controller murdered last week.

Firstly, let there be no doubt that I understand and sympathise completely with this !

Just to help our crew briefs and fleet planning though, could anyone advise if most of European ATC will be following around the same time ?

Any constructive replies appreciated.

Kind regards.

flowman
5th Mar 2004, 16:50
From a release by the ATC unions co-ordination

Serbia Montenegro:
30 mins without take offs (NOTAMed)
Bulgaria:
30 mins without take offs 1200-1230 UTC
Italy:
Under discussion
Greece:
Take offs delayed for a limited period
Hungary
1 minute of radio silence
Malta:
No take offs 1200-1215 UTC
Switzerland:
30mins without take offs (NOTAMed)
Portugal:
1 minute of radio silence
France:
No take offs 1200-1210 UTC
Slovenia:
30 minutes without take offs
Maastricht ACC:
1 minute of radio silence at 1200
Spain:
20 mins without take offs (NOTAMed)
Denmark
1 minute of radio silence
Czech Republic:
1 minute of radio silence, possible period without take offs (under discussion)
Lithuania:
1155-1215 all take offs fromEYVI will be stopped
Austria:
1 minute of radio silence
Finland:
1 minute of radio silence

Just confirmed by the Spanish ATC union:
All departures will be stopped 1200-1220 UTC

ghost-rider
5th Mar 2004, 16:58
Many thanks for that Flowman.

Would appreciate any further updates you get ?

Kind regards. :ok:

Madrigal
5th Mar 2004, 17:29
Why is there no reaction from the UK?????:confused: :confused:

ghost-rider
5th Mar 2004, 17:50
Hmm ... I was surprised about that too :confused:

M609
5th Mar 2004, 18:43
Norway will have 1 minute radio silence as well

ghost-rider
5th Mar 2004, 21:57
Were the r/t silences respectfully observed ?

zed3
6th Mar 2004, 00:55
Maastricht UAC had a minute silence in common with the rest.
RIP.

Sonnendec
6th Mar 2004, 02:24
In Canarias no incidents, we sttoped departures at 1200 UTC and they begun again at 1220UTC.

Thanks for the pilots cooperation in theses difficult moments for us.

Rest In Peace, mate. For all the pilots: if you see him up in the sky send him a hug from us.

normally right blank
6th Mar 2004, 02:38
Yes. This went "well" here. NOTAM'ed civil and military - flying safety excempted of course. (The spirit!). With very little planning it was possible here. Domestic taxying, AWACS flying a full procedure, civil photo flight doing his business. All in silence contemplating with us on the ground.

Thank you, guys. Also to those that only got the message airborne and offered to stand off an hour early! Most beautiful clear - but bitterly cold - weather as the funeral service took place 200 miles east of here. RIP - Peter Nielsen.

Just went outside after typing the above. Clear skies.

Moon 45 degree above horizon east south east. Planet below.

And the most beautiful halo around the moon! Strange.

Direct KORSA
6th Mar 2004, 04:01
The entire day Denmark decided to show it self from its most beautiful side. Before and after the ceremony the sun was shining down at us and the church from a clear sky.

May you rest in peace Peter and God watch over your precious family.

2 six 4
8th Mar 2004, 00:59
........ and in the UK the Prospect National Secretary (not an ATCO) makes another mess of things by agreeing with his NATS counterpart that any such action in the Uk would be industrial action. :mad:

We do care deeply in the UK even if we were not given the chance to show it. Our thoughts to his family and his colleagues in Swisscontrol.

Lon More
8th Mar 2004, 01:30
........ and in the UK the Prospect National Secretary (not an ATCO) makes another mess of things by agreeing with his NATS counterpart that any such action in the Uk would be industrial action

God's teeth. What a pathetic excuse; you could surely just have done it anyway.

I can only presume that the union covers more than NATS and also. judging by other threads, that you are not entirely satisfied with your reps performance, and also that reps are elected.

Instead of just complaining about your conditions, why not take steps to organise your own union, with your own elected reps.
Or is it still that Napoleon's "Nation of shopkeepers", still has de Maistre's, "...government it deserves"?

Scott Voigt
8th Mar 2004, 13:07
In the US if we would have even have contemplated doing such a thing, the FAA would have declared it an industial action as you call it... They then would have taken action against us as quickly as possible as a whole and not just as individuals...

regards

Scott

normally right blank
10th Mar 2004, 03:58
Thank You all!

Very interesting. 20 minutes closed for departures - well done! One minute silence - no problem - but the "players" co-operated and "observed" it - and made it "not a problem". That you have a lawyer sitting on your shoulder - like a vulture? - could perhaps be a flight safety problem?

Best regards