View Full Version : comm failure EGLL

20th Feb 2002, 13:28
Hello. .what would be the procedure in EGLL during a comm failure,just after takeoff in IMC and under radar vectors?. .thanks for the input

Oliver James
20th Feb 2002, 13:54
Squawk 7600, continue for two minutes on the last assigned heading, comply with the last assigned altitude restrictions. Resume your flight plan and follow other r/t failure procedures laid down in UK AIP.

Point 4

[ 20 February 2002: Message edited by: 120.4 ]</p>

21st Feb 2002, 01:31
120.4 - where does the 2 minutes on last assigned heading coming from?

I'm not arguing about it, just want to know, as I can't recall seeing it before.

(On the other hand the old memory isn't as good as it.....forget what I was going to say now <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> )

Oh, and another thing - you say " resume flight plan". Do you mean go direct to the next point on the SID, or resume the SID track as soon as practical, or go direct to the end point of the SID, or.....?

(Edited to ask the second question)

[ 20 February 2002: Message edited by: tired ]</p>

21st Feb 2002, 04:31
One reference to the 2 mins comes from the airfield specific pages at the back of the COM section in the Aerad Europe supp. See the section on departures from LHR (under United Kingdom)

I would hazard a guess at the second bit, but prefer to hear 120.4's opinion {Wadda cop out!)

Oliver James
21st Feb 2002, 04:35
Tired. .Now you're asking!

It is in the UKAIP somewhere - I haven't had to look it up since Gatwick training years ago. Gatwick has a specific outbound radar function and so it is particularly pertinent to them. I 'll have a look and then get back to you if I can find it.

I would expect an aircraft to rejoin the SID at the next convenient point, without involving harsh manoeuvres. We live in a radar environment.

Point 4

Warped Factor
21st Feb 2002, 15:25
Looks like the UBB code has been turned off, or isn't working properly, so you'll have to cut and paste the links.

http://www.ais.org.uk/uk_aip/pdf/enr/aipenr.htm (UK R/T fail procedures)

See para

http://www.ais.org.uk/uk_aip/pdf/ad/EGLL.htm (Heathrow r/t fail procedures)

See para 2.22.

http://www.ais.org.uk/uk_aip/html/homepage.htm (AIP online)

http://www.ais.org.uk/ (AIS online)


[ 21 February 2002: Message edited by: Warped Factor ]

[ 21 February 2002: Message edited by: Warped Factor ]</p>

21st Feb 2002, 15:40
WF the links....

<a href="http://www.ais.org.uk/uk_aip/pdf/enr/aipenr.htm" target="_blank">UK R/T fail procedures</a>

<a href="http://www.ais.org.uk/uk_aip/pdf/ad/EGLL.htm" target="_blank">Heathrow r/t fail procedures</a>

<a href="http://www.ais.org.uk/uk_aip/html/homepage.htm" target="_blank">AIP Online</a>

<a href="http://www.ais.org.uk/" target="_blank">AIS online</a>

Fink anyhow, the description comes after the address.

Warped Factor
21st Feb 2002, 21:48
Thanks Cough.


25th Feb 2002, 02:23
Thanks, guys, good gen. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">