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Una Due Tfc 14th February 2025 13:12

AC taking up some extra slots originally denied to them by the cap, YVR and YUL getting an extra weekly rotation each, 5 x weekly and 4 times weekly respectively, B789 to operate both.

Sunday Business Post newspaper had an article last week that China Eastern have secured Government approval and slots for a PVG service. Nothing official announced yet.

Una Due Tfc 18th March 2025 18:06

Westjet going from 7 to 11 x weekly on YYZ in the summer, likely in reaction to the whole USA/Canada trade issues atm.

YYZ now showing 32 x weekly across 4 different carriers.

Una Due Tfc 25th May 2025 01:06

EI announced 3 x weekly CUN for the winter months.

Una Due Tfc 15th June 2025 18:50

EY, QR & EK have all applied for and been granted slots for a third daily rotation each for W25. Routes to Tirana, Tromso, Derry, Prestwick and Timasora have also had slots allocated. Everyone just ignoring the passenger cap now which is rather entertaining.

markhillmana320flyer 16th June 2025 05:22


Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc (Post 11902712)
EY, QR & EK have all applied for and been granted slots for a third daily rotation each for W25. Routes to Tirana, Tromso, Derry, Prestwick and Timasora have also had slots allocated. Everyone just ignoring the passenger cap now which is rather entertaining.

Did I not see that Norwich has also had slots allocated for Winter 25? Or in other words Ryanair have requested them

LJC14 16th June 2025 07:24


Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc (Post 11902712)
EY, QR & EK have all applied for and been granted slots for a third daily rotation each for W25. Routes to Tirana, Tromso, Derry, Prestwick and Timasora have also had slots allocated. Everyone just ignoring the passenger cap now which is rather entertaining.

Any idea which airline for Prestwick ?

Noxegon 16th June 2025 08:28

Norwich is a bizarre one. It was served before, and the airline hired people to take the flights in order to meet a quota:

https://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0331/101423-flybe/

markhillmana320flyer 16th June 2025 08:34


Originally Posted by Noxegon (Post 11903247)
Norwich is a bizarre one. It was served before, and the airline hired people to take the flights in order to meet a quota:

https://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0331/101423-flybe/

Yeh that was back in 2007, managed to get a free flight out of that. Certainly things are alot different nowadays a near 18 years later. With Ryanair present at NWI. Dublin and Malaga are the most requested routes from Norwich that are currently not served. Any article or post on social media and the comments are almost entirely wheres Dublin/Malaga. So at 3x weekly with the pull that Ryanair has could well be a success this time round.

Una Due Tfc 16th June 2025 17:44


Originally Posted by LJC14 (Post 11903186)
Any idea which airline for Prestwick ?

Based on the number of seats it looks like an ATR so probably Emerald.

pabely 16th June 2025 18:00


Originally Posted by Noxegon (Post 11903247)
Norwich is a bizarre one. It was served before, and the airline hired people to take the flights in order to meet a quota:

https://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0331/101423-flybe/

That was a long time ago with a failed airline.
Ryanair will pump the passengers through without issue.

Una Due Tfc 20th June 2025 15:18

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025...passenger-cap/

Local Council throwing their toys out of the pram. They have rejected planning permission for every capacity increasing submission the airport have made, resulting in appeals being needed to thr national planning board, where the permissions are being ultimately granted. Weirdos in the local council with big egos at work me thinks.....

Una Due Tfc 21st June 2025 13:22

UA have announced extension of the second daily EWR flight to year-round. So thats 2 x EWR, 2 x IAD, 1 x ORD year round.

Edit: UA also announce they'll be using the premium heavy 763s more in winter months at DUB as premium traffic is holding up very well vs economy.

Seljuk 19th July 2025 16:08

Emirates goes trice daily from 26th October
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...-daily-flight/

Asturias56 20th July 2025 08:32

"Weirdos in the local council with big egos at work me thinks...."

or perhaps people who believed it when the airlines and airport agreed to upper limits of development?

Una Due Tfc 20th July 2025 08:45


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11925763)
"Weirdos in the local council with big egos at work me thinks...."

or perhaps people who believed it when the airlines and airport agreed to upper limits of development?

Every application the DAA makes to increase facilities at DUB is being rejected by Fingal. If DUB can handle 130k passengers per day in June, it can handle it in December. The passenger cap is both nonsensical and illegal as A4A have demonstrated.

The plans for the second runway were made public in 1968. Anyone who has bought or built since hasn't a leg to stand on.

Seljuk 21st July 2025 17:27

Qatar Airways will increase to 17 weekly from December

Asturias56 22nd July 2025 07:41

Then why did they agree to the limit 18 years ago when the new terminal was built?

People have bought property based on that Agreement.


TheSpiddalKid 22nd July 2025 09:07


Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc (Post 11925770)
Every application the DAA makes to increase facilities at DUB is being rejected by Fingal. If DUB can handle 130k passengers per day in June, it can handle it in December. The passenger cap is both nonsensical and illegal as A4A have demonstrated.

The plans for the second runway were made public in 1968. Anyone who has bought or built since hasn't a leg to stand on.


Fingal CC has really lost the run of itself. In the past few months, they have rejected an application to demolish two 1970's 1970s-built car ramps at T1, which haven't been in public use for over 3 decades. The reasoning given was that they were 'of technical and architectural interest.' I think this is one decision even the modernist society would struggle to agree with. But making ******* crazy decisions like this does its integrity no good when there is an actual battle with the DAA that maybe worth fighting.

Una Due Tfc 22nd July 2025 16:07


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11926634)
Then why did they agree to the limit 18 years ago when the new terminal was built?

People have bought property based on that Agreement.

Because that limit was based on the road network and % of passengers using public transport at the time. The metro was due to be built so they weren't worried then. And ultimately, being cynical, it is possible the DAA knew the cap was illegal but Fingal didn't, so they let Fingal hang themselves.

However the road network, despite being completely outside of DAA's control and entirely within Fingal's, has improved. Bus connectivity has also improved. Back in 2007, a tiny fraction of passengers got to the airport by public transport, now one third does.

Look, Fingal broke the law in three distinct areas with their restrictions:

A: Flight paths cannot be specified in planning permission, this is a flight safety issue entirely under the remit of the ANSP (AirNav Ireland).

B: Slots cannot be constrained by the Competent Authority (IAA) unless there is an immediate safety risk. Slot allocation is the responsibility of Eurocontol under EU Law, delegated to ACL in Dublin's case.

C: Denial of slots to carriers between the US and EU is a violation of the EU-US openskies agreement as proven by JetBlue vs AMS in court.

This is Fingal's screwup. They were either incompetent or deliberately did it this way so that they could talk out both sides of their mouths, saying they were looking after the NIMBYs out of one side and doing the right thing for the largest employer in Fingal and one of the most vital pieces of national infrastructure out of the other.

Just a spotter 11th September 2025 21:50

The Irish Times is reporting today, 11th Sept 2025, that DAA Chief Exec, Kenny Jacobs, has retained the services of a leading Dublin law firm to represent him in a serious disagreement between himself and the board of the DAA (formerly the Dublin Airport Authority).

The story is behind a paywall, but here's the first paragraph


DAA chief executive Kenny Jacobs has engaged law firm Arthur Cox to represent him in negotiations with the company amid a serious rift with other members of the board at the State-owned airport operator. The fallout may lead to his exit after less than three years in the role, according to four sources.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...n-takes-place/

It has struck me as odd, that over his tenure, the board of the DAA has remained silent as Mr.Jacobs has not only engaged in a war of words with Fingal County Council, the local authority in whose area Dublin Airport sits, who is the regulator for planning and also the competent authority for noise issues, but he has, according to actions taken by the local authority (https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2...er-cap-breach/) appeared to have openly led the company to defy some of the planning constraints placed on the operation of the airport by FCC, by allocating more slots than the imposed passenger cap allows.

Today's Irish Times article includes the line


Sources suggested a mutual agreement that could see the CEO leave the DAA could be close.
JAS


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