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Droidd 25th February 2023 11:18

Source
 

Originally Posted by Paulesx (Post 11391355)
That’s certainly and interring one , I found a reference to once a week flights from 20 March on a Russian language site but could find no flights for sales on the Turkmenistan airlines website or in the GDS, also saw nothing in the Stansted website, you happen to have the link / source ?

SeanM on twitter has posted about it, I can’t link yet

Paulesx 25th February 2023 11:23

Ok nice so found the below link which will need to be translated

https://turkmenportal.com/blog/58416...nii-v-ashhabad

According to the Stansted airport schedule looks like Wednesday flights after an initial Monday flight

T5421 arriving @ 15:50
T5422 departing @ 17:50

no idea on equipment though, I will have to give that one a try :)

STN406 25th February 2023 13:08

This is scheduled to start from the 29th of March with the passenger service on a B777-200LR running Wednesdays, but a cargo joins as well during May and the passenger service moves to operating on a Monday with the cargo taking the Wednesday slot on a A330-200F. The flight numbers will change with the cargo flight taking TF431/432.
Very much hope both services will begin, think the cargo service is more likely.



Paulesx 25th February 2023 13:14

Thanks for the Info, you have a source?
777 will be a good addition, nice to get some more long haul equip in , imagine the 777 passenger flight will actually also be able to offer 10 ton of ad hoc cargo sales space too.

As for the A330, again a nice addition, i remember when they used to operate an IL76 in for cargo on an ad hoc basis

STN406 25th February 2023 13:17

Wont be able to share the source as its of the airports flight display system.

Paulesx 25th February 2023 13:18

Ahh no worries, thanks for the info

LGS6753 25th February 2023 18:53

Turkmenistan applied for slots (and I think operated) some winter flights from Luton pre-Covid. Equipment was (to be) a 737-800.

pabely 25th February 2023 21:56


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 11391583)
Turkmenistan applied for slots (and I think operated) some winter flights from Luton pre-Covid. Equipment was (to be) a 737-800.

Did indeed, see https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...from-dec-2019/
I would think the route would have been via Ukrainian airspace which is obviously not available currently and they found it hard to fill a 737-800.
A 777 with a big belly makes more sense as I cannot see pax demand being too high.

davidjohnson6 25th February 2023 22:07

I'm struggling to think of what cargo might be travelling between Ashgabat and London.... never mind thinking about pax now that T5 closed their routes to India. The UK and Turkmenistan have very limited cultural links between each other. UK exports to Turkmenistan are minimal. Turkmenistan's main export is gas via pipelines. Tourism to Turkmenistan is difficult and small in numbers

GayFriendly 26th February 2023 08:00

These T5 flight numbers are the same used on its long running BHX - ASB route that started in the late 90's , stopped briefly after 9/11 then stopped again in 2020 due to the pandemic. It was operated up to 4 times weekly (using 737 initially, then 757 and 777) and survived almost solely on connecting pax to ATQ and DEL. If T5 have no onward connections to India from ASB anymore as reported, I really don't see how this will work for T5 unless it's primarily for cargo. Having said that, with AI starting at LGW and rumours of a second daily service at BHX, if T5 were to start offering India connections again, STN would be a good choice to avoid the might of a resurgent AI, although they did happily co-exist at BHX for a number of years.

Paulesx 26th February 2023 09:40


Originally Posted by Paulesx (Post 11381809)
Some interesting notes when looking at the STN ACL S23 5% slot hand back data for carriers holding STN slots this coming S23 season, should they all come to fruition of course

Enzis Air ( MG) 186 slots

Southwind Airlines (2S) 382 slots

BA Cityflyer (CJ) 88 slots

Freebird ( FHY) 264 slots

Balkan air ( BGH)

African Eagle (H7) 184 slots

Turkmenistan Airlines (T5) 114 slots

Tus Air (U8) 434 slots

China cargo airlines (CK) 372 slots

Vietnam Airlines (VN) 434 slots

EL AL ( LY ) 310 slots

source as below

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...Regulation.pdf

well so from the above airlines

BA confirmed starting calvi route

Turkmenistan - starting Ashgabat- london service

EL AL - kept their eve slot at LTN so staying there

Vietnam - loaded their S23 at LHR staying at Heathrow

H7 - hi sky, not african Eagle , starting chisinau

Freebird - doing some stn - Turkey flights for other operators

any updates on the others ? Enzis looks interesting from Mongolia

MARK 101 26th February 2023 15:28


Originally Posted by GayFriendly (Post 11391777)
These T5 flight numbers are the same used on its long running BHX - ASB route that started in the late 90's , stopped briefly after 9/11 then stopped again in 2020 due to the pandemic. It was operated up to 4 times weekly (using 737 initially, then 757 and 777) and survived almost solely on connecting pax to ATQ and DEL. If T5 have no onward connections to India from ASB anymore as reported, I really don't see how this will work for T5 unless it's primarily for cargo. Having said that, with AI starting at LGW and rumours of a second daily service at BHX, if T5 were to start offering India connections again, STN would be a good choice to avoid the might of a resurgent AI, although they did happily co-exist at BHX for a number of years.

Wasnt the main reason for BHX stopping that the EU banned Turkmenistan for a period of time. They were,as you say loyal to BHX,but without the Indian connections they will struggle. Guess BHX is not a viable option for ASB only

sewushr 26th February 2023 16:52

Correct. Operators from Turkmenistan were included on the EU Safety List and were therefore banned from flying to the EU, including the UK. That is no longer the case.

Interestingly, Moldova is on the UK's Safety List with (currently) only Air Moldova, Fly One and AeroTrans Cargo exempted from the ban.

Paulesx 27th February 2023 09:04


Originally Posted by STN406 (Post 11391439)
This is scheduled to start from the 29th of March with the passenger service on a B777-200LR running Wednesdays, but a cargo joins as well during May and the passenger service moves to operating on a Monday with the cargo taking the Wednesday slot on a A330-200F. The flight numbers will change with the cargo flight taking TF431/432.
Very much hope both services will begin, think the cargo service is more likely.

so seems the 20 Mar is loaded as a 777 as below

120MARASBLON
20MAR MON ASB/Z¥5 LON/-5
1T5 423 C I D R J B O *ASBSTN 0900 1050 77L 0 M
Z E Y H T Q S W
1T5 424 C I D R J B O *STNASB 1250 0005¥1 77L 0 M
Z E Y H T Q S W

from the 29 march moves to a Wednesday service but looks to be a 737 which is a shame

29MAR WED ASB/Z¥5 LON/-4
1T5 421 C I D R J B O *ASBSTN 1300 1550 73H 0 W
Z E Y H T Q S W
2T5 422 C I D R J B O *STNASB 1750 0400¥1 73H 0 W
Z E Y H T Q S W

weirdly enough LHR still showing in the system albeit with 0 availability on a 757 so this I assume will soon be removed once availability is loaded for STN

29MAR WED LON/Z¥1 ASB/¥4
1T5 424 C Y D T Q G LHRASB 1835 0445¥1 752 0 W
2T5 423 C Y D T Q G ASBLHR 1410 1650 752 0 W

davidjohnson6 9th March 2023 14:22

Hadn't seen this mentioned on this thread - Ryanair to reopen their route to Osijek in north east Croatia on 2 June 2023, flying Mondays and Fridays
https://www.exyuaviation.com/2023/03...to-osijek.html

daz211 9th March 2023 19:21

One of FlyPOP’s A333’s is currently en route BYJ - STN.

flying under Hi Fly HFM450P.
Reg 9H-PTP.
Eta 20.49 local time.
Not sure how long it will be on the ground, or the reason for its visit, or for that matter where it will be heading next.

Has anyone at STN heard anymore Regarding Scheduled operations starting in the near future.

SWBKCB 9th March 2023 19:59


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 11398548)
One of FlyPOP’s A333’s is currently en route BYJ - STN.

flying under Hi Fly HFM450P.
Reg 9H-PTP.
Eta 20.49 local time.
Not sure how long it will be on the ground, or the reason for its visit, or for that matter where it will be heading next.

Has anyone at STN heard anymore Regarding Scheduled operations starting in the near future.

Have they got a UK AOC or permission from the Indians?

AircraftOperations 9th March 2023 21:22


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 11398548)
One of FlyPOP’s A333’s is currently en route BYJ - STN. flying under Hi Fly HFM450P.Reg 9H-PTP.Eta 20.49 local time.Not sure how long it will be on the ground, or the reason for its visit, or for that matter where it will be heading next. Has anyone at STN heard anymore Regarding Scheduled operations starting in the near future.

​​​​​​​FR24 suggests a loaded sector as HFM to YEG tomorrow morning. Perhaps a charter for military personnel?

STN406 10th March 2023 08:24


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 11398548)
One of FlyPOP’s A333’s is currently en route BYJ - STN.

flying under Hi Fly HFM450P.
Reg 9H-PTP.
Eta 20.49 local time.
Not sure how long it will be on the ground, or the reason for its visit, or for that matter where it will be heading next.

Has anyone at STN heard anymore Regarding Scheduled operations starting in the near future.

Its purely a coincidence that Hifly have sent one of the FlyPop planes to Stansted for its charter to Edmonton

daz211 10th March 2023 16:27


Originally Posted by STN406 (Post 11398790)
Its purely a coincidence that Hifly have sent one of the FlyPop planes to Stansted for its charter to Edmonton

Still nice to see it at its home base.


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