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AirportPlanner1 8th February 2023 12:42

El Al were supposed to have operated in 2020, I believe it went on sale but willing to be corrected.

davidjohnson6 8th February 2023 12:51

Are LTN slots at times suitable for El Al really that difficult to obtain ?

Sotonsean 8th February 2023 13:09


Originally Posted by Paulesx (Post 11381809)
Some interesting notes when looking at the STN ACL S23 5% slot hand back data for carriers holding STN slots this coming S23 season, should they all come to fruition of course

Enzis Air ( MG) 186 slots

Southwind Airlines (2S) 382 slots

BA Cityflyer (CJ) 88 slots

Freebird ( FHY) 264 slots

Balkan air ( BGH)

African Eagle (H7) 184 slots

Turkmenistan Airlines (T5) 114 slots

Tus Air (U8) 434 slots

China cargo airlines (CK) 372 slots

Vietnam Airlines (VN) 434 slots

EL AL ( LY ) 310 slots

source as below

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...Regulation.pdf

The two airlines on that list that got my attention were.

African Eagle H7,

The Ugandan freight carrier currently operate a small fleet of prop aircraft on regional routes from Entebbe.

Enzis Air MG,

A Mongolian charter airline based in the capital Ulan Bator. The airline currently have two aircraft in it's fleet, an Airbus A333 and a Boeing 738.

As others have pointed out, El Al were scheduled to resume flights to STN from Tel Aviv in 2020, but due to the pandemic this did not materialise. Hopefully STN will see the resumption of flights by El Al from Tel Aviv at some point in the future.

sewushr 8th February 2023 14:45

H7 is more likely to be HiSky of Moldova (despite what the ACL report says!)

pabely 8th February 2023 18:01


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11382239)
Are LTN slots at times suitable for El Al really that difficult to obtain ?

Yes, very hard. Until they extend parallel taxiway and do fast exit slips it is very constrained in Summer. There are limits on terminal capacity as well so there might be a runway slot but no room for pax.

davidjohnson6 8th February 2023 19:33


Originally Posted by sewushr (Post 11382273)
H7 is more likely to be HiSky of Moldova (despite what the ACL report says!)

HiSky were meant to fly to the UK at the start of 2022. In the end they flew on maybe a couple of dates, with the rest of their schedule cancelled. I'll believe they are coming to STN when I see wheels touch the ground

sewushr 9th February 2023 05:06

HiSky have never operated to Stansted (or anywhere in the UK) as far as I'm aware.

Personally I think the Romanian offshoot is more likely, given the demise of Blue Air, rather than a 3rd carrier from Moldova operating to London, but who knows?!

FRatSTN 9th February 2023 09:00

El Al
 
From what I can make out it looks like El Al have lost their historic late evening slots at LTN this summer.

The initial co-ordination report for LTN shows El Al having been allocated only 12 slots per week (6 pairs), increasing to 16 from late June. Total 422 slots. - They requested 22 slots per week (11 pairs) which they're selling tickets for.

The STN slots are 10 per week (5 pairs) for the full season operating late evening. Total 310 slots.

That still appears to be the case: S2023-Permitted-Slot-Returns-as-per-the-UK-slot-Regulation.pdf (acl-uk.org)

I imagine they're hoping to secure the remaining slots at LTN, or else I guess we may end up seeing some of them at STN.

pabely 9th February 2023 11:57

A test booking late May still shows late evening at LTN.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1af0db8c12.jpg
They have in the past run x3 day from LTN, 777 + x2 737 so that might be the overflow which will end up at STN.

Paulesx 9th February 2023 19:51

BA CityFlyer
 
Well appears the slots, albeit a small amount for BA CityFlyer will be actually be utilised with BA operating a weekly Stansted - Calvi service for S23

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/corsic...mer-2023-38436

STN406 9th February 2023 23:14


Originally Posted by Paulesx (Post 11383072)
Well appears the slots, albeit a small amount for BA CityFlyer will be actually be utilised with BA operating a weekly Stansted - Calvi service for S23

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/corsic...mer-2023-38436

Interesting I had seen a twice weekly PMI flight loaded for the summer. Sat and Sun flights.

FRatSTN 10th February 2023 05:04


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 11382813)
A test booking late May still shows late evening at LTN.

My original post does acknowledge that. Just because they're selling tickets doesn't necessarily mean they have the slots confirmed.

With only 422 total slots allocated at LTN across the season post handback it's evident actually they don't. Sure there's a good chance they will still get allocated them before March, but looks like that's why they're still holding out for STN.

AirportPlanner1 16th February 2023 11:06

Ryanair are adding Ouarzazate 2x weekly from the end of March. I’d absolutely recommend it having been although no more than a short break is needed. It’s a top place for film fans as it’s home to Atlas Studios and the stunning town of Ait Benhaddou is half an hour or so away.

I don’t think this route will last too long however, I think it’s a bit too random and I’m guessing very few would have heard of it. When I went the only international route was a 1x weekly to Paris.

davidjohnson6 16th February 2023 11:58

Wahey... finally we get a completely unexpected new airport being linked to London for summer 2023... something has to be comparable to last year's opening of a route to Örebro

AirportPlanner1 16th February 2023 19:50


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11386821)
something has to be comparable to last year's opening of a route to Örebro

To be fair I suspect Orebro and its catchment has decent inbound demand. And the route is still going. Can’t imagine many Brits use it, but even major cities like Oslo and Stockholm have in my experience been majority Scandinavians on board.

rog747 17th February 2023 03:28

BACF Palma ? and Calvi
 

Originally Posted by STN406 (Post 11383146)
Interesting I had seen a twice weekly PMI flight loaded for the summer. Sat and Sun flights.

PMI - Not apparent as yet on BA.com for the high season - maybe this was dropped like some of the SOU routes?,
or could be a charter, but I am not aware of any Tour Operators taking a series on BACF from STN.

Calvi is a SUN charter for Corsican Places Holidays (who in the past have used Titan)

BACF have a charter program from SOU to Palma flying for TUI Holidays with 2 x weekly (TUE & SAT)
plus the 3 x weekly scheduled PMI flights.

BACF also fly weekend summer charters from JER, GCI and IOM to Palma, IBZ, AGP, FAO.

Droidd 22nd February 2023 11:39


Originally Posted by sewushr (Post 11382612)
HiSky have never operated to Stansted (or anywhere in the UK) as far as I'm aware.

Personally I think the Romanian offshoot is more likely, given the demise of Blue Air, rather than a 3rd carrier from Moldova operating to London, but who knows?!

It's HiSky from KIV, operating H7461, TUE, THU, SUN IN 2030, OUT H7462 2125.

davidjohnson6 25th February 2023 07:55

Stansted website showing regular flights to Ashgabat in Turkmenistan.
I've been and would not recommend for a holiday unless you fancy seeing a milder version of North Korea

Paulesx 25th February 2023 09:07

That’s certainly and interesting one , I found a reference to once a week flights from 20 March on a Russian language site but could find no flights for sales on the Turkmenistan airlines website or in the GDS, also saw nothing in the Stansted website, you happen to have the link / source ?

davidjohnson6 25th February 2023 10:37

https://www.stanstedairport.com/flig...5422-20230405D


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