Are FCA revamping their entire B767 fleet, including increasing the seat pitch through out the a/c

Yes all FCA 767's will be in the new config. The change is NOT happening as smoothly as suggested however. AN is now at least 3 1/2 weeks overdue. That's not all bad in itself as the new config has not been 'sold' to the public for flights before May 1st.

Currently however many who should be flying long haul FCA routes are being flown via Canada on 757's whilst AN's refit overruns.

BL has been sold to the public for flights as of May 1st. Judging by the lateness of both BK and AN to date I don't think realistically it will make the UK in May at all!! Standby for chaos whilst it's flights are either operated on 757's or subbed out to a third party operator....... There is no option.

Which routes in May will be effected seem so far unannounced. If you happen to be on a FCA 767, then you'll love it, it really is very good, but the conversion project IS behind schedule and passengers will be effected for a good while yet :-(

any more updates yet on how the new refitted aircraft is coming along G-OOBL considering the summer season is now up and running and many of the transatlantic long haul flights are now operational ?

what is happening to G-OOAL is this the aircraft that is away getting refitted and will be re-registered (into G-OOBL ) ?

by the way are all the refitting jobs incl IFE done at Sharjah

G-OOAN is back and operating.

G-OOBL is due back mid May time.

G-OOAL will be returned to Boeing.

Will the GLA-POP flight on the 29th of July be operated by a one of the new layout 767s?

yes! it should be.

G-OOBK is also back, operated out of Glasgow yesterday

G-OOBK has been in service since March, AN since end of April.

FCA to Sanford on a 757
 

Why are First Choice flying to Sanford via Bangor on a 757 instead of direct on their highly promoted 767's ?

this aircraft ferried up from Manchester this morning after doing yesterdays Man-Sfb-Man arriving there this morning

this aircraft cannot surely hold a 767's load and they are surely not flying folxs over the pond on a european short haul configured aircraft can they ?

anyone got any info on this cheers

Apparently, at least 1 of their 767's is in the Middle East getting the interior refurb, and delivery is behind schedule.

That at least is what our Captain told us 3 weeks ago when I pitched up at MAN for a much anticipated holiday to Montego Bay, and found our 8 3/4 hour flight in the new "super-duper interior" B767 actually becoming a 12 hour hell via St Johns in a B757.

Hats off to the hosties tho - you could tell that they were p*ssed about the a/c, but kept up a smile as the toilets failed one by one etc. They certainly made the flight a little more tolerable.

Quite funny in St Johns, catering uplift for the second leg to Jamaica came out of the hold, and being as we weren't allowed off the a/c, everyone joined in passing the boxes along the cabin. Not so sure about the storage of gash in boxes in the overhead bins, but I suppose when needs must.

Hope this helps

PM

Possibly using 2 757s due to a 767 going tech?

there was only 1 757 at Glasgow this morning and its on route to BGR at the moment

dunno what the passengers must think looking forward to 1 thing and getting total opposite

Do you think most pax will realise? I suspect most people decide which ticket to buy on cost and timings, departure airport etc and won't have a clue as to what type of aircraft, or even what airline they are flying.

your guy is correct the 3rd 767 a/c bl will not arrive in the uk till the end of the month
flts from gla for next fri/sat/sun are being subchartered to loftlieder on a b767 routing man/gla/sfb/man on fri
man/gla/pop/cun/gla/ncl on sat/sun
hope this helps guys

Whilst I'd agree with BALIX that usually most passengers choose their flights on the timings & the overall cost, one of the main points that FCA have been HEAVILY promoting in all of their brochures for the last few months is the new Star Class service. Travelling by holiday airline is stereotyped to usually be uncomfortable with poor service, so the Star Class would have been very appealing to many package pax. Hope nobody was disappointed ...

I aggree with bmibaby.com this was one of my points First Choice have been heavily pushing there new long haul service but to sell someone a 'Star Class' product only to give them something totally different is shamefull on them. Considering they have known this was happening

I think they should have atleast outsourced the flights to another carrier with suitable aircraft and seating,or, of all the aircraft lying around in this world with nothing to do there is one somewhere they could have leased/subcharted for a couple of weeks till they have their own suitable aircraft.

Granted I dont know the loads but how can you fit a 763's load into a 752 ?

Unless of course, they'd only sold enough holidays to fill a 752 by the time of departure? Just a thought.

ACA

I know what yo meean guys but the point I was making was that most pax won't know the differecnce as most pax are pretty ignorant when it comes to aeroplane maters.

Especially the sort of pax you are likely to find on board a FCA flight to Sanford :E

Think you might find that passengers, are far more savy than you give credit for BALIX .... The give them SPAM and say its HAM no longer works these days ..as they have far more choice than ever .Do you own a property in Orlando ? many of our passengers do.

Indeed jmccrew, which is why I emphasized the word most and not all. It is only a hunch but I would reckon that more than half (ie, most) of your pax wouldn't know the difference between a 757 and a 767. They probably would know the difference between a nine hour direct flight and an eleven hour flight that stops Goose Bay mind you.

And no, I don't own an Orlando property, though I've stayed in a couple and very nice they were too. Flew with AA and Delta. The irony was that the scheduled flights were cheaper than FCA's charter flights.

(BTW, in case you think I'm FCA bashing, I'm not. I will be utilising your service to Paphos in October. It should be a 757!)