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NEastMidlands 6th September 2006 18:16

Bristol is going to be a B757 base which has never had premium on it. I think all of the A321's will be going very soon which are the only 4 planes with it on.

I am suprised FCA havent implmented this on all short haul flights because as i can see its very popular and sells out on virtually all flights, giving people that little extra legroom they want.

devon_guy 6th September 2006 18:28

How mad, what is the logic in moving the A321's from brs?? I agree with what you say, surely they could fit a premium cabin quite easily to the 757's??

NEastMidlands 6th September 2006 20:07

devon_guy

Could be something to do with the fact all A321's are returning to the lessor and both the B757 and B767 will make apperances at BRS.

devon_guy 7th September 2006 07:30

Well that's fine, but have they not thought about putting premium cabins in the 757's??

devon_guy 8th September 2006 15:47

I spoke to First Choice and the lady went through to flight ops and apparently the reason that the premium service is going from BRS is that it is under performing. I find this very hard to believe, can anyone confirm if this is true or not?

NEastMidlands 8th September 2006 21:22


Originally Posted by devon_guy (Post 2830436)
Well that's fine, but have they not thought about putting premium cabins in the 757's??

I am sure they have but obvously for one reason or another decided not to

WindSheer 8th September 2006 23:49


Originally Posted by devon_guy (Post 2833450)
I spoke to First Choice and the lady went through to flight ops and apparently the reason that the premium service is going from BRS is that it is under performing. I find this very hard to believe, can anyone confirm if this is true or not?

I work for FCA with the prem service at Brs week after week!!
It is not under performing, and is quite a good little money spinner.

Prem' class has only ever been available on AMM/FCA's A321 & 767 a/c. Dont ask me why it was never put onto the 75 and 320 fleets, that is one for someone else.
The A321 is being removed from BRS due to the need for the 757 to take its place and open up a few more routes, and improve a few logistical issues with the 321 and Bristols runway. This will also solve several rostering headaches by having crews at BRS qualified to fly the 767 when it arrives.

So, to cut it short the prem is leaving because the 321 is leaving. Thats about it really!! Wherever these a/c end up (Man or Lgw), then prem will become available.

:)

30W 12th September 2006 09:10

All 321's are not to go despite a previous poster suggesting so.

There will be a loss of 1 A321 from the fleet for next summer. Of the 2 BRS summer based A321's one will return to the lessor as it's lease runs out this winter, and the other will be located at LGW next summer.

Why 757's for BRS? BRS's runway length combined with the poor 'performance' of the Airbus make route structuring difficult. I think this last weekend again saw an enroute stop for fuel on one service because the aircraft wasn't capable of making it direct. The same route on the 757 wouldn't have been an issue - it's performance is just far superior. The Airbus has some good qualities, better fuel economy than the 757 for one, but if it can't cope with the routes direct it's a waste of time.

FCA want to operate Egypt routes from BRS, can't even contemplate it with a full A321.

onwardsandupwards 17th September 2006 15:38

First Choice Airways aircraft bases
 
Please could someone provide a list (not extensive) of which First Choice aircraft are based at which UK airports.

Thanks in advance

CaptYanknBank 22nd September 2006 18:06

First Choice MAN B757 fleet
 
Hi out there,

Anyone know how many B757's First Choice base at MAN?

What do they fly out of LBA?

Cheers,

CY&B

lba2006 23rd September 2006 01:51

A320 out of LBA.

airhumberside 23rd September 2006 08:44

Isn't it a LTN based A320 that does LBA-FAO?

BAforever 23rd September 2006 12:47


Please could someone provide a list (not extensive) of which First Choice aircraft are based at which UK airports.

Thanks in advance
A320 AT Cardiff:ok:

crackling jet 25th September 2006 00:40


Originally Posted by onwardsandupwards (Post 2857163)
Please could someone provide a list (not extensive) of which First Choice aircraft are based at which UK airports.

Thanks in advance

BRISTOL :- Winter 1 x 757, 1 x A321, 1 x part week 767 ( we are led to believe at this time.

WATABENCH 25th September 2006 01:24

BRS is 1x757 with visiting 767 from feb, the 321 remains for a few weeks in to winter as crew are on swap over from airbus to boeing, in summer it will be 2x757 plus visiting 767, EXT is 1x320 winter only, CWL is 1x320 summer only, BHX is 1x757 winter 2x757 summer, EMA is 1x321 plus visiting 767 year round, STN is 1x321 year round, LTN is 1x320 year round, BFS is 1x320 year round, DUB is 1x757 year round, LGW/MAN have 320/757/767 operating winter and summer with both the ex BRS 321's being added to the equation from Dec onwards... hope this helps!

rm2242 2nd October 2006 14:37

FCA Routes 2007
 
Hello all.

As far as I can tell, the following changes are being made to the Gatwick operation for 2007;

Discontinued: Croatia, Malta
New: Samana, Costa Rica, Sri Lanka

Can somebody please confirm? Any other changes? Is, as per rumour, Holguin (or Varadero?) being discontinued in favour of Bristol?

Also on a side question, FCA stop off somewhere (can't remember where) on the way back from Dubrovnik. Is this for performance constraint issues in DBV or something?

Regards,
Rob

30W 2nd October 2006 14:48


Can somebody please confirm? Any other changes? Is, as per rumour, Holguin (or Varadero?) being discontinued in favour of Bristol?

Also on a side question, FCA stop off somewhere (can't remember where) on the way back from Dubrovnik. Is this for performance constraint issues in DBV or something?
I doubt if Cuba IS dropped it's because of BRS. BRS services are on the regional 767 (BRS/EMA/GLA), so don't effect LGW's 767 long haul services.
As new routes are on offer, perhaps replaced by one of those? Sri Lanka is only new to LGW, as it's currently already operated from MAN.

DBV is scheduled to operate direct LGW on an A320.

30W

Flightrider 2nd October 2006 14:49

The Sunday LGW-DBV currently operates back via Split. It's for commercial reasons (operated via Zadar last year) to meet a requirement for Sunsail's sailing flotillas - that tour op is part of the FC group.

rm2242 2nd October 2006 15:24

Appreciate that. Thanks.

Can't remember where I picked up that info about the Cuba service swap. I think it was for reasons other than fleet utilisation though. Not sure.

Not surprised that DBV is operated. Croatia seems to be an emerging market. What can I say, my facts are a bit off obviously. I also doubted the Malta service ending, so still, if anyone can confirm or otherwise.

Regards,
Rob

Edit: I actually think the Malta service is operting. I think my info came from the FCA website a few months back, before schedules where confirmed. Sorry about that.

Thomas_Cook_757-300 2nd October 2006 17:32

Hi,

Croatia has been dropped by First Choice for Summer 2007 from all departure points. Colombo is suspended ex MAN from Oct.

Thomas_Cook_757-300


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