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CWL_Chris 17th August 2005 18:09

Cheers guys for the information on FCA and the flight out of BRS.

I have to be honest, I had never heard of Halkadiki. I thought it was an Island, until I looked at my atlas!

Regards,
Chris

WATABENCH 17th August 2005 20:27

BRS is FCA's biggest regional base behind MAN and LGW it handles more than BHX, GLA, EMA, STN, BFS, DUB, LTN and of course CWL, but it does remain a mystery not just to outsiders but crew and other company workers as to why FCA think that they cannot get the business to base CWL all year.:confused:
as well as operate the EXT winter prog, in my humble opinion there is more than enough business to operate year round BRS/EXT/CWL programmes alongside each other, theres probley enough to increase in BRS during winter aswell, XLA and KM will be picking up that business now though

NEastMidlands 17th August 2005 20:59

Could FirstChoice not use two more A321's around. EMA seems to be getting more popular, base one there, and the other CWL, EXT rotations.

fly20 17th August 2005 21:00

That is what i was wondering, the EXT charters are nearly always full according to my source, and FCA could prob base a 757 there all year round and operate full flights everyday. If EXT can fill a A310 to YYZ (altho it is split with BHX it still carries 100+ pax per week) surely EXT could have some more longer haul services, to stop south-west pax going to LGW/LHR/BHX?
FCA if your reading this then get some a/c based at EXT!!!

Localiser Green 26th October 2005 09:00

First Choice most punctual charter airline; Flyjet worst
 
According to the latest statistics at Flightontime.info.

So far this summer, the ranking is:

1. First Choice Airways (17.1 mins av. delay)
2. Thomsonfly (17.5 mins av. delay)
3. MyTravel Airways (27.8 mins av. delay)
4. Thomas Cook Airlines (27.9 mins av. delay)
5. Monarch Airlines (30.5 mins av. delay)
6. Excel Airways (36.2 mins av. delay)
7. Astraeus (44.6 mins av. delay)
8. Flyjet (56.4 mins av. delay)

Shame to see delays up for all carriers compared with last summer (except for MyTravel).

Biggest increase in average delay was for Thomas Cook (up by 80% from last year).

GOLF-INDIA BRAVO 26th October 2005 09:11

I would think that with all this bad weather other side of the Atlantic
in last few days it`s going to add quite a lot to to the averages for some of the airlines

G-I-B

Localiser Green 28th October 2005 12:13

The transatlantic routes flown by these airlines actually make up quite a small proportion of the overall operation so I doubt any significant effect would be seen.

lee.b 3rd November 2005 15:13

1ST (AVG DELAY MINS) 2ND (WITHIN 15MINS) 3RD (1HOUR+) 4TH (3HOURS +) 5TH ( TOTAL FLIGHTS)
1 (2) First Choice Airways(15.13) (77.94) (5.42) (1.28) (8,833)
2 (1) Thomsonfly * (12.82) (83.12) (4.55) (0.91) (10,526)
3 (7) MyTravel Airways (28.15) (67.84) (11.52) (3.04) (8,586)
4 (3) Thomas Cook Airlines (15.52) (79.91) (6.46) (1.57) (8,603)
5 (6) Monarch Airlines (26.46) (66.38) (10.14) (2.67) (4,574)
6 (4) Excel Airways (21.68) (72.95) (7.65) (2.34) (5,049)
7 (5) Astraeus (24.39) (68.63) (8.87) (3.08) (1,849)
8 (8) Flyjet (36.69) (44.97) (16.14) (2.65) (378)

FIRST CHOICE AVG DELAY 15MINS
THOMSONFLY 12MINS
MYTRAVEL 28MINS
THOMAS COOK 15MINS
MONARCH AIRLINES 26MINS
EXCEL 21 MINS
ASTRAEUS 24MINS
FLYJET 36MINS

+3HOURS DELAY
HIGHEST % 1ST

ASTRAEUS
MYTRAVEL
MONARCH
FLYJET
EXCEL
THOMAS COOK
FIRSTCHOICE
THOMSONFLY

Localiser Green 4th November 2005 09:29

Those figures and ranking are for last year (i.e. for the comparable period Apr-Jul 2004). The Apr-Jul 2005 figures are in my post.

See http://www.flightontime.info/charter/charter.html

flyer55 30th November 2005 20:32

First Choice Dropping Shorthaul @LGW
 
Can anybody confirm or deny that First Choice are dropping Shorthaul Flying from LGW Summer'06 and concentrating Longhaul flying?

30W 30th November 2005 21:28

Looking at the S06 commercial plot most definately a false rumour.......not wanting to stop a good rumour though - I'm sure many would enjoy longhaul only.....but sadly not going to happen.

FormerFlyer 30th November 2005 22:42

I refer the honourable gentle(wo)man to my previous reply

cheers ;)
FF

Localiser Green 9th January 2006 09:08

First Choice top for punctuality (Summer '05)
 
First Choice lived up to their name last summer, with the delay league table announced today.
Sad to see we are back to the days of 1 in 10 UK charter flights on average running over an hour late though. Some airlines really have some work to do.
http://www.flightontime.info
http://www.flightontime.info/charter05.jpg

Mr @ Spotty M 9th January 2006 16:32

Re: First Choice top for punctuality (Summer '05)
 
They may have come top in the table, but the figure that l would say is more important, is how often you dept within 15 minutes of your departure time.
My Travel came first in that one, with Thomsonfly second and First Choice third.

Ambulance 'Charlie Alpha' 10th January 2006 09:42

Re: First Choice top for punctuality (Summer '05)
 
The one thing that I learnt when doing my BSc was that you can make averages and statistics mean anything you want to, depending on which side your personal bias leans.

If you we're to equalise the flights to the minimum random sample eg, around the 1600 mark, then it would be interesting to see how the positions change. Obviously, this would be hard to do due to the size of each airline and it's operations. But then you have to ask, is it really fair to compare FlyJet's 1166 flights with Thomsonfly's 18224? If you took a random sample of just 1166 Thomsonfly flights at any particular point in time, they may fair much worse or even better than they do in this table. And where are their bases of operation? An airline that mainly works out of Gatwick or Manchester, compared to one that uses much quieter regional hubs could be considered unfair aswell.

I'm not picking, just an observation to promote debate. I personally take these tables all with a pinch of salt. I am trying to be impartial here. I work for TCX, so that's where my loyalty sits. Hopefully we'll do better this summer!

Anyone care to offer a different view on this?

ACA

goldeneye 10th January 2006 10:08

Re: First Choice top for punctuality (Summer '05)
 

The one thing that I learnt when doing my BSc was that you can make averages and statistics mean anything you want to, depending on which side your personal bias leans.

If you we're to equalise the flights to the minimum random sample eg, around the 1600 mark, then it would be interesting to see how the positions change. Obviously, this would be hard to do due to the size of each airline and it's operations. But then you have to ask, is it really fair to compare FlyJet's 1166 flights with Thomsonfly's 18224? If you took a random sample of just 1166 Thomsonfly flights at any particular point in time, they may fair much worse or even better than they do in this table. And where are their bases of operation? An airline that mainly works out of Gatwick or Manchester, compared to one that uses much quieter regional hubs could be considered unfair aswell.

I'm not picking, just an observation to promote debate. I personally take these tables all with a pinch of salt. I am trying to be impartial here. I work for TCX, so that's where my loyalty sits. Hopefully we'll do better this summer!

Anyone care to offer a different view on this?

ACA
Your spot on with that about stats, Figures can be adjusted to favour any thing, so i always take these things with a pinch of salt. Am with you on TCX too. Any more news on the new A330 or B757-300's coming from Condor.

Localiser Green 10th January 2006 12:29

Re: First Choice top for punctuality (Summer '05)
 

Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M
They may have come top in the table, but the figure that l would say is more important, is how often you dept within 15 minutes of your departure time.
My Travel came first in that one, with Thomsonfly second and First Choice third.

That is true, but then you could arguably rank the carriers by % of flights operating over an hour late as well (like the AUC do in their league table), and if you do that the ranking is the same as above (with the exception that Excel and Astraeus would be reversed).

rumair999 11th January 2006 12:52

Re: First Choice top for punctuality (Summer '05)
 
And LTE came on top overall

Volar Airlines / 14.33 / 72.35 / 5.46 / 1.02 / 586
Channel Express / 15.73 / 75.47 / 7.23 / 1.26 / 318
Hello / 16.57 / 76.24 / 4.62 / 1.98 / 303
First Choice / 16.90 / 72.71 / 5.87 / 1.16 / 16,516
Thomsonfly / 17.96 / 76.65 / 6.47 / 1.63 / 18,224
Iberworld / 20.22 / 75.68 / 7.72 / 2.70 / 259
Air Europa / 21.65 / 61.54 / 8.44 / 0.74 / 403
BA CitiExpress / 23.29 / 58.22 / 10.45 / 0.86 / 584
MyTravel / 23.84 / 77.71 / 8.57 / 2.94 / 10,996
Air Malta / 24.05 / 65.85 / 10.82 / 2.71 / 776
Pegasus / 24.61 / 67.70 / 8.31 / 2.14 / 421
BH Air / 26.60 / 57.13 / 13.05 / 1.71 / 996
Thomas Cook / 29.24 / 69.83 / 11.90 / 3.64 / 15,607
Futura / 31.47 / 52.57 / 15.33 / 2.75 / 835
bmi / 32.99 / 49.35 / 11.92 / 2.09 / 1,149
Monarch / 33.60 / 58.20 / 13.00 / 3.33 / 7,648
Onur Air / 37.66 / 48.42 / 20.93 / 3.17 / 884
Astraeus / 38.94 / 56.75 / 16.57 / 4.36 / 2,890
Spanair / 39.83 / 41.89 / 20.95 / 3.38 / 444
Excel / 40.23 / 61.62 / 14.38 / 4.45 / 10,881
Eurocypria / 46.65 / 45.72 / 17.51 / 2.54 / 748
European Air Charter / 55.84 / 43.35 / 27.58 / 8.23 / 1,008
Flyjet / 59.94 / 38.85 / 30.36 / 6.60 / 1,166
Air Atlanta Europe / 83.95 / 28.18 / 34.60 / 9.43 / 1,029

kotakota 19th January 2006 15:02

Who cares what time you depart ? Surely arriving on schedule is more important ? It is amazing how people whinge about 20 mins delay , but forget to appreciate arriving on time.

Rampmole 10th April 2006 10:33

767 first choice hydraulic problem MAN
 
Anybody know anymore about this.....inbound fc 767 this morning approx 08.00 landed with some sort of hydraulic problem..........


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